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      Editing … That's fine. This will be converted with the sub-page system. It'll be the same with Bruce Wayne/Batman, Anakin/Darth Vader, etc
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    • Husky Wing
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      Editing … Will the secret identities be sub-pages of their real names? (Otherwise Dick Grayson would be a subpage of Batman, Nightwing, Robin :p )
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    • Papissama
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      Editing … Real names will be the sub-pages.
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    • Husky Wing
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      Editing … We're going to have a lot of Dick Graysons.
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    • Fincher
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      Editing … Dick Grayson should probably just be a sub-page of Nightwing. Well, that one particular Dick Grayson; if there's a separate page for the Batman Forever/Batman & Robin Dick Grayson, then he'd go under Robin.
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      Editing … This whole thing is a mess.
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    • Husky Wing
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      Editing … Wait, so will there just be one Batman page, with several secret identity sub-pages? Or would there be several pages for each depiction, +one subpage each for their true identity?
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      Editing … I don't know if there will be separate pages for different versions of a character (like the Batman & Robin example I used), but I don't think there will be separate pages for a single version of a secret identity just because he used more than one superhero persona. The point of having a Dick Grayson page is if you want to rank him outside of being a superhero, and you only need one page to do that. The sub-page system means that his points would be added to the Nightwing (for example) page's points on the overall list; the points wouldn't need to be added to Batman, Nightwing, Robin, on down the line.
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    • Husky Wing
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      Editing … Or Dick Grayson could be the primary page, and his identities the subpages. This way, Nightwing or his Batman or Robin portrayal adds to the Dick Grayson page, not the other way around. This way we have fewer repetitive pages, as the subpages aren't completely separate people, like they would be if we had several secret identities under the Robin and Batman pages. People don't think of the mask of "Robin" as its own character, do they? (using that example because it has the most sub-pages in this conversation)
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    • Fincher
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      Editing … Well, it means that "Bruce Wayne" and "Steve Rogers" shows up on the overall chart rather than "Batman" or "Captain America", which is probably less attractive since people would tend to think of themselves as Batman fans, not Bruce Wayne fans, and even though we're allowed to have pages for secret identities, people are mostly choosing to rank the superhero personas. I'd say there are downsides to both ways. It can be seen as a weakness for Barry Allen, Wally West, etc. to show up together on the charts as The Flash, but in some cases people might not be all that aware of characters' real names, or they might not care about distinguishing between versions of a superhero/supervillain. Maybe it should be handled somewhat on a case-by-case basis.
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      Editing … There shouldn't be a problem with subpages appearing in lists and searches. They could operate like pages currently do, just tied to another page, and maybe giving that parent page a few extra points when ranked. If I rank Dick Grayson's Robin as my favorite character ever (totes) then I would search for Robin, Robin would go on my list, but Dick Grayson would also receive a few points. If they operate like current pages, users shouldn't be confused :D
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      Editing … Pape will need to weigh in on this, but as far as I know that's not how it's going to work, and I think the idea behind the sub-pages system was so that points wouldn't be split up among a bunch of different versions.
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      Editing … If we wanted to keep it individual person focused but keep superhero personas on the charts, maybe it could be something like...Nightwing is the main page, and for sub-pages it has Dick Grayson, Robin (Dick Grayson), and Batman (Dick Grayson). So overall it's a page for Dick Grayson to be represented on the charts, but Nightwing is the face that is used.
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      Editing … ^ That would work perfectly, even though I personally think it makes more sense for Dick Grayson to be the main page in that case. But if anything other than that were to be the main page, then you're right, it would be Nightwing.
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