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    Does Tim Burton deserve a list? It's been a while since he really impressed... anyone.
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      Editing … I wouldn't rank anything in a list I don't think. I couldn't be arsed to google Tim Burton and find out who he is and what he's done.
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      Editing … He's a war photographer who redefined photojournalism in the late '60s, and turned to state-funded propaganda when he got old
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    • Nodley
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      Editing … Oh really? That's pretty interesting. I thought he was just a film guy or something.
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    • Husky Wing
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      Editing … He is. I thought you really had no idea who he was, so I made up a complete lie :(
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      Editing … I couldn't name any films off the top of my head but I think I recall he does dark weird shit and likes Johnny Depp.
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      Editing … That's him! My favorite from him is... probably Ed Wood.
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      Editing … I don't know what Ed Wood is....*googles*.....Oh he does batman with the penguin. That's a good film. Sleepy Hollow too, my mrs did drama classes with that kid out the film. He's from Hull like your favourite Favslister.
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      Editing … Who? Tim Burton.. *goes on wikipedia* oh that dude, have seen Batman, Batman Returns, Beetlejuice, Planet of the Apes (2001), Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and switched off Mars Attacks so said one partly. Enough for a list but nothing special...
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      Editing … I know Tim Burton has seriously fallen off but the dude has been making movies for almost 40 years, with a lot of it being super mainstream stuff. He also has one of the most easily recognizable styles in all of cinema. If a whole site of nerds seriously don't know who he is or what he's done I suddenly feel really bad for the guy.
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      Editing … And by a whole site of nerds I of course mean like six people.
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      Editing … This is twice now that Alex has surprised me by not recognizing a major filmmaker. He didn't know Terrence Malick! No one asked about the Raúl Ruiz list, but of course, that list was just for me (:
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      Editing … Who is terrence malick? And the other guy?
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      Editing … Raúl Ruiz is an arthouse filmmaker, I don't expect anyone here to know him. Terrence Malick is a modern filmmaker most film nerds would know, known for his epic and experimental dramas, and like Tim Burton he's known for his very distinctive style.
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      Editing … Tim Burton needs to be forgotten like he never existed.
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      Editing … I really can't stand Terrence Malick films. I've tried many many times to force myself to like them but I just can't. And I like weird experimental movies but his movies just don't do it for me. Maybe I should try his earlier films from the 70s.
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      Editing … If you like weird, try Raúl Ruiz.
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      Editing … Thanks for the recommendation. I'll look into him. I dunno why but a movie I saw a while ago just sprung to mind: The Lighthouse (2019) have you seen it? I thought it was pretty great. It still haunts me sometimes.
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      Editing … I've seen it. I think it's the best Robert Eggers movie so far. I see a good few hundred movies each year (at least 365) :)
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    • Nodley
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      Editing … "If you like weird, try Raúl Ruiz" I'm friends with Rukkshard so I definitely like weird.
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      Editing … Husky do you make movie youtubes with your movie expertise?
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      Editing … No. I'd be more inclined to write something peer-reviewed, but I'm more interested in expressing my film enthusiasm creatively (I guess if I fail to find success in the arts, you'll find me in academia). I'd like to shoot my own feature someday. I shoot on 16mm as a hobbyist right now, and I've helped out with some short films. I'm also nerdy enough to be able to identify lots of lens info just from a quick glance at a movie (and if it's Terrence Malick then he's certainly using Zeiss Master Primes), and I can generally easily identify if a movie or show was shot with an Arri Alexa rather than another inferior digital camera (like a Red or CineAlta camera). I'd like to shoot with an Alexa, but I think I'd generally work with photochemical film. I mean, it helps that I already know how to shoot it. I've also hand-processed some 16mm.
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      Editing … Tom Birten
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      Editing … (I don't know why I wrote that, I was trying to be funny)
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      Editing … I was confused at first, but found it funny once I realized what you were doing
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    • Nodley
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      Editing … A while back my hobby for a little while was reading users movie reviews online. Oh it was so funny. People actually thought they were professionals, or that their opinion mattered, or that they actually knew what they were doing. I enjoyed reading their "critique" far more than watching movies.
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      Editing … I quite like critical drinker on YouTube, he's good. He's totally wrong about the best Bond though.
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      Editing … The only film youtubers I respect are ones who work in the film industry. I don't like watching reviews, and I guess since I've engaged with enough actual film academia, I find film video essayists to be pretty dumb. But I don't think most people sincerely watch video essayists for insights, I think that listening to other people talk about film is part of how they engage with their own film enthusiasm.
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      Editing … I like talking about beer.
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      Editing … Husky, i forgot about Tim Burton after haven't seen a flick from him for like 15 years, as my memory isn't fotographic. Damn it must be 30 years even i watched Burtons Batman back then he was a big deal as director.
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      Editing … That's even better Husky than youtube. I guess once you know so much about something, your brain starts figuring out how to actually make it yourself. If you know about lenses you'd probably shoot a better picture than most. People often have all sorts of ideas in their head about what would be cool, but no knowledge of actually how to achieve it. Technical knowledge you figure out yourself is really useful because it has melted with your brain. It is part of your thinking. If you ever make a hipster 16mm movie you definitely have to show us.
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      Editing … I'm highly technical with how I use cameras. I love pulling in-camera magic tricks :)
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      Editing … Oh magic camera man. Do you have a tip for photographing light emitting objects in regular lighting? My photo instructor said you have to Photoshop 2 images together. One pic of the light and one of the textures around the light, but that's feels stupid. I guess optics do work that way though. When I'm looking at a light, my eyes make everything else too dark to see, but maybe there is a magic trick?
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      Editing … I guess it depends how you want the light to look. I'm not sure exactly what you want. Are you trying to get the room and the light-emitting object both perfectly exposed? Is there any way to dim the light-emitting object? Or you could brighten the room with some other lights. When I shoot black & white film, I use a yellow filter to dim blue stuff, so the sky can be as well-exposed as what I shoot on the ground.
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      Editing … "Are you trying to get the room and the light-emitting object both perfectly exposed?" Yes. Sometimes my problem is that the light of the light emitting object is dimmer than the brightness of the room and so you do not see that the object is emitting light in the photo. But the room has to be brightly lit to appear correctly. IRL you see the object is emitting light but in the photo it's not visible. Or sometimes the light of the object is a little brighter than the surroundings and you get washed out colors in the light emitting part and it looks horrible. I usually Photoshop the light part, but it feels weird to do that. I would like it more if it worked without photoshop. The instructor told me it wasn't possible and I guess maybe he's right. I just still live with some amount of hopium.
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      Editing … I'd try to help if I could really get a grasp of the situation. You'll have to fly me out and let me sleep on your couch, and show me all the greatest nearby sights and restaurants. Then I can show you my favorite movies on your TV.
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      Editing … "I use a yellow filter to dim blue stuff, so the sky can be as well-exposed as what I shoot on the ground." That's pretty interesting. I never really thought about it but since you don't need color, you of course can do all kinds of color filtering. Quite a few members of my family do photography but somehow I never liked using a camera. I feel like it takes me out of the moment and photos never look like the way your eyes see things, but I have to learn to do it more because documentation is really important for artworks and stuff. I never gave a shit about it but it's not really an optional thing. It would be more fun to make pictures of pretty scenes and play with filters.
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      Editing … yellow flowers also get really brightened (though in black and white they look more like bright white) :)
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      Editing … "I'd try to help if I could really get a grasp of the situation. You'll have to fly me out and let me sleep on your couch, and show me all the greatest nearby sights and restaurants. Then I can show you my favorite movies on your TV." If I ever got that rich I'd fly you over and have you make the pictures so I don't have to. :-P
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      Editing … Okay, then here's the plan: you'll get rich and then do that.
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      Editing … It's the perfect plan! But for that plan to work I first need photos. D-:
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      Editing … Okay--you'll get rich off your photos, and then make a time machine so you can start flying me over today, so we can work together to make the photos that make us both rich (enough to make a time machine, because this is cyclical)
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      Editing … Photo's are but one step to becoming rich. They are only to show rich people what they can buy from me. There are many many more steps to take. So first we have to time travel to 10 years ago and make contact with rich people and befriend them, then profit off of that connection now.....And maybe buy some bitcoin and invest in bestbuy while we are in the past for good measure.
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      Editing … You know all those ancient tombs that were robbed long ago? Maybe we were the robbers all along. We'll go back and then sell those ancient treasures in the modern day. We'll say we came across them in a uh... a box.
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      Editing … The British museum gonna be richest on Earth
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      Editing … Yes of course! I'm sure soon we'll get a map or something that our future selves left behind for us. Then we can find that box and buy up all the sweet potatoes on earth so nod can't have any.
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      Editing … You wouldn't dare
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      Editing … We'll replace all the artifacts in the British Museum with fakes! They are, of course, already fakes, because we already did that in the past, but the British Museum has been covering it up for decades.
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      Editing … Fakes is how we pulled off (or will pull off ?) all our crazy stunts. Our future selves probably also replaced all the sweet potatoes for fake ones just to fuck with nod. You'd best watch out nod the next time you bite into a sweet tatty. It might be a Chinese fake.
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      Editing … I like chinese food
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      Editing … I bet you like plastic rice then.
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      Editing … Bit of soy sauce it all tastes good
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      Editing … We're gonna give you toy sauce, and you can pretend it's soy sauce
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      Editing … I made fajitas for tea
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