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Saved!Even though there is nothing wrong with my airfryer I've just ordered a new one. It's a 9 in 1 airfyer! You can rotisserie chickens in it: https://youtu.be/NvlhSXyV7-8?feature=shared
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … today I cooked rice using a rice cooker, I plan to make this a regular thing. Just one problem though, what if I want to make rice again but didn't clean the rice pot from the last time? So I had this idea to buy one or more replacement rice-cooker-pots. (well that or own multiple rice cookers, but I don't see why when it's really just the pot that goes inside that I need) I'm on ebay now, most of them are from china... ours has a speckle pattern (black w white specks) but these are plain black. Somehow I imagine these black ones are inferior and loaded with edcs... meh. -
Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … this one is bronze, that's cute and I like that. https://www.amazon.com/Inner-Cooking-Aroma-Rice-Cooker/dp/B0C3B64C1S/
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … I could say something about cooking rice that way that will make you more paranoid but I will just shut my face and congratulate you on your rice cooker. Welcome to the favslist kitchen and home appliance enthusiast club. It's mostly just made out of airfryer evangelists but there is room for all sorts of beliefs in this club.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I haven't used my new airfryer yet. I used our new oven for the first time yesterday to make a pasta bake and it was delicious. I threw in some bacon and chicken and sundried tomatoes and mature cheddar grated on top. I caught Claire dishing it out scraping the top layer with all the cheese onto her plate and trying to con me giving me the layer beneath lol. -
Saved!KlemoibEditing … She'd be doing you a favor and giving you the healthier part.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Health doesn't matter when it comes to cheese. Cheese is a must. I'll take 10 years off my life to eat cheese.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Anyway, I don't think cheese in moderation is unhealthy. I need to find a way to airfry cheese.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Cheese is worth 10 years? So you'd rather eat cheese than see your grand kids? No no.... Wait. It's even worse. You'd give up 10 years of beer for cheese?!
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Life is for living. I aint going all monk-like and not having cheese or beer just to spend 10 years extra in a nursing home. Just enjoy the cheese, it's delicious. Just don't eat a large pizza everyday and shit will be fine.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … I agree but limiting unhealthy foods is not monk like. It makes the food taste better when you do eat it. I like to keep treats for special moments mostly. I didn't used to be like that but I guess something of my anal and well brought up friend rubbed off on me somewhere and I think I personally like it more this way. I guess there was some sense in being sensible after all. Also if you live healthily you don't have to live an extra 10 years in the nursing home, you should be able to have extra healthy years. It's the unhealthy people that live miserably for the last 10 to 20 years of their life because modern medicine can keep them alive with their diseases on pills for a long time.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … I think cheese was one of my favorite things. I thought I would miss it so much but I never think about it anymore. I thought I would crave it and miss it for the rest of my life but that was over pretty quickly. I like the occasional fermented nut cheese though. Expensive, but it's nice and fancy.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Nah, look at the 100+ year olds they've been in nursing homes 20 years most of them. I don't want to live like that. It's something I've thought a lot about since I accepted I'm now old. I want to live until I'm 83 like my grandad and go out quickly whilst still living at home and going to pub every Friday with my mates. I don't want to cling on in no nursing home with people wiping my arse and been on strict light on lights off like in prison. I'm going to eat mostly healthy but I'm eating that cheese too. Being old and helpless or worse, have alzheimers, terrifies me. I'd rather die at 70 than go later with that.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … who is talking about 100? I'm taking about people getting sick in their 70's and going to nursing homes earlier and earlier due to bad lifestyle. People are so unhealthy that they just start nursing home earlier. If you live well you spend less time overall in nursing homes. Just think about it, if you don't take care of something like bad posture now, you will live in pain at the end of your life but that pain could have been prevented by building good posture when you were younger. It is possible to age gracefully, just don't eat junk and stay active. My grandma is 93 and she still lives on her own. The only help she needs is cooking.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … "I will just shut my face and congratulate you on your rice cooker." well we had one, I simply hadn't used it in a long while. I keep going through phases. I could be vegan one time, then later be like pfft rice thats like empty carbs or plant lectins or whatever. Now I've come around and decided that rice is *amazing*. Especially if you're not ruining it by dousing it in soy sauce, throwing it in soup or using it to help mop up the sauce in your chinese takeout. Just rice by itself.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I eat well anyway 95% of the time, and now I've quit truck driving I've got a hold of the drinking. I''m doing the majority of it right. If I make 83 and still living in my own home I'm happy.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … "throwing it in soup" wat?
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Rice in soup is tasty
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … You guys are punking me. I just know it. There is no way rice in soup is a regular thing. Is it? What?! *google* What? no really? There is still so much I don't know.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I can't believe you've never seen it. There are tins of rice soup in the supermarket. You know what I don't like though, rice pudding. Ugh disgusting horrid slop!
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … "tins of rice soup" What?! I have never seen them here though. Rice pudding/porridge is great (but then again i made it so of course it will taste great). Maybe you just had inferior rice pudding or you just hate sweet things.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … btw I will never buy cheap saltshakers ever again. Salt. everywhere!... i had to wash my food. I also made homemade seitan it's pretty easy and it tastes fantastic. It has the texture of chickin... well... at least I think it does. I'm no expert in chicken...
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I still haven't used my airfyer, I've had it over a week now.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Have you lost the faith?
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I've just not cooked all wek.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … you've turned into a teenager this week. Has your face become silky smooth aswell?
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I actually have a spot on my jawline
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I'm using it now, I'm cooking potato waffles
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Saved!NodleyEditing … The potato waffles were a bit dryer than I've ever had them cooking them under a normal grill. I wonder why that is? Is all my food going to be dry cooked in this air fryer?
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Maybe just cook it at a lower temp?
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Everything goes at 200 degrees I don't mess about
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … .... you might want to rethink your air fryer strategies...
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I might actually google some airfryer tips and get the most out of it.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … "I could say something about cooking rice that way that will make you more paranoid" Thrn let's hear it. I still haven't cleaned the pot since the last time, and my mum refuses to clean it either. So rice is apparently something I'm can make exactly once, until I order more pots from china, which I am considering doing. Might as well tell me now before I do. Let me hear your thoughts on tofu as well. In one day, I ate two 14 oz containers raw straight from the package. I'm considering making that a thing. (P.S. If i buy the pots, I'd have to wash them first? The instructions usually tell you to do that before using a new appliance or pot/pan fpr the first time. I don't plan to do that, or" if I do I'd use only water not soap. I hope that's not a bad thing..)
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Imagine leaving dirty pots around to go mouldy though
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Cleaning a pot isn't terrible if you do it right away. After that it gets crusty and it will need a soak. I just make rice in a pan. Cleans off really easily.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … The thing about cooking rice in a certain way like rice cookers do is only maybe a problem if you eat rice all the time so as long as you are not intending to eat in with every meal or every day I would not worry about a thing. Rice absorbs a good amount of arsenic from the soil. So if you cook it like most people will do "add only the necessary amount of water and let it boil dry" you get all of the arsenic in the rice, but if you wash it and cook it like pasta (in a large amount of water) and then drain the excess water you get rid of a bout 50% or the arsenic. But then it does not get sticky and tasty so you should just eat it the way you like if you don't plan on doing a rice only diet. But if you don't care about the stickiness you might as well cook it like pasta.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I have a food health and safety qualification and there's something in rice that's deadly, and it's not arsenic, it's something else I forget. You should never eat leftover rice it can literally kill you.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … TLDR: Tofu is good. It is a food. You will not grow tits.---- Tofu is great and yummy. That is my opinion and all you really have to know. But here we go. Tofu and other soy products in general are great and healthy contrary what many bro scientists will have you believe. I don't know exactly why people started to demonize this particular bean but I have my suspicions. Maybe it has something to do with the gmo soy that is being grown and fed to cattle. That kind of soy does not seem that yummy to eat yeah so there I guess I agree. I also know bros are afraid of phytoestrogens but no, you will not grow tits from soy. Then I would have backpain right now. Phytoestrogens don't work like regular estrogens (that do give you tits). In fact it is actually protective against the influence of synthetic xenoestrogens from PCBs, BPA plastics because the phytoestrogens will sit on your receptors so the xenoestrogens can't get in and mess with you as much. But don't go and eat soy only. Eat it in the same amounts as any bean. Tofu specifically is more processed but it's still a very good option. I put it on bread in wedges or I just stirfry it with vegetables and seasoning.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Oh yeah do you mean the bacteria or spores on rice (also pasta) that could kill you if you let it sit?
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … "Cleaning a pot isn't terrible if you do it right away." Yes, but I can't touch it right away bc it's still hot. And since it's sitting in the rice cooker, it remains hot indefinitely. Things are simpler on a stovetop- when cooking pasta or something I empty the contents of the pot immediately and clean it as soon as it's cooled down enough. P.S. I bought a used electric portable stove and it arrived today. Maybe I'll just cook rice using that!
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Just buy packets of microwave rice rukk.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … https://www.amazon.com/CJ-Hetbahn-Cooked-Gluten-Free-Microwaveable/dp/B003U97L1Y/ "ships from and by amazon" hmm.. that might be good actually. Not too keen on the gluconic acid though. What is that even? Hopefully not a dealbreaker, just pointing it out.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I literally just bought it. Wtf nod.. nice call.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … We always have a few of these knocking around in the cupboard for days when we don't have time to cook a meal: https://groceries.asda.com/product/flavoured-microwave-rice/asda-jasmine-micro-rice/1000140301624
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … "but I can't touch it right away bc it's still hot. And since it's sitting in the rice cooker, it remains hot indefinitely." take it out with oven mits and put it in the sink and fill with water.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Instant rice? Fine, but rice packs are disgusting. Also heating up plastic does not seem like a great idea. I got them as a kid sometimes and I always thought it tasted weird.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Also what's wrong with cooking rice the regular way in a regular saucepan? It only takes a little while and it cleans up easily.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … You tip the rice into a bowl instead of heating up the packet. I mean, you're going to tip it into a bowl anyway once cooked.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I don't like gas. That's why I got the plug-in stove. If it works out then I could always just cook rice that way. But having options/convenience is always good. Plus this way I can leave pots open for pasta or split peas.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Gas is the best for cooking, it's instant heat. Electric takes time to heat up, and far far far worse - time to cool down!
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Airfryers are so convenient though. Lob it in set the timer and go play a game for 15 minutes. It's always cooked good enough and never burns, and it's safe to leave it.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … Klem - oven mitts are a good idea. I *have* them.. bought them one time to make vegan banana bread and other nonsense. I should use those to remove the rice cooker pot the moment it's done.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Electric cooking sucks, you just can't get certain results with it. If I'm not allowed to cook on gas anymore I might just start cooking on open fire or something or a really good induction plate.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … "banana bread and other nonsense" Banana bread is never nonsense. It is the bread of life.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … Cooked rice a few times. I tried using brown rice too which I now prefer over white. It's not easy to take the pot out whike wearing oven mitts, so the method I devised was to use spoons to lift the pot partially and have it resting on the cooker while tilted. Then I put on oven mitts and take the pot off. Anyway... I noticed that the cooker produces really nasty fumes. There's this artificial smelling metallic/plastic musk that fills the air and it seriously irritates the skin on my face. It may be worse than gas. Never using it again. This reminds me of what happened with the egg cooker I bought, although the smell is more subtle this time. So I am wondering whether I should try buying a different rice cooker, either a different brand and preferably used one that has all the fumes used up. But it doesn't seem possible at this point. It's literally built in to the product. Like the plastic and metal. And the fact it heats electrically. So maybe I just won't bother. I still haven't tried the electric stove I bought (it's big btw!!) and am kind of afraid to now bc it probably also produces fumes. I also still need to try the microwaveable rice. Maybe I'll do that today.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Electric stove should not produce toxic fumes if you smell anything it's just the metal heating up (and crusty food if you didn't clean it) and that's not harmfull. But the rice cooker could maybe produce fumes from the non-stick tray, especially if you didn't wash the factory musk off of it. You always have to wash new non stick stuff.They say so in the manual. I try not to use non stick though, even if it's not teflon I still dont trust it and it's just made to throw away. I got rid of my non stick pan and learnt how to properly use stainless steel instead. I love stainless steel. Never going back plus it will last a lifetime. Don't be affraid to cook rock. Cook in any way you can. It unlocks new skill trees.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Yeah I love cooking, it's fun!
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … Just an update. I tried the microwave rice and it's great. So easy. (once again, nice one, nod!) Incidentally however I started to doubt if rice is healthy. Because.. when I was using the rice cooker, afterwards I would use a wet napkin to wipe the inside of the pot, and it would end up mashing the rice stuck to the inside, and spreading it around, causing the inside of the pot to be coated in transparent sticky film. (lol gross) It was then it occurred to me, that's what it becomes once digested, which means that although having the appearance of solid food, white rice is basically just semi transparent slime. (On top of that I seem to become sleepy after eating it, but all warm food seems to do that.) But I also wonder if it causes blood sugar spikes. Seeing as how it becomes slime so easily, it probably gets absorbed very quickly by the body. Now, is brown rice any better? Given a choice I would prefer brown over white although I imagine it's only a slight improvement. P.S. Despite all that, I still plan to buy more of the microwave rice. Gotta have hot food. Buuut.. Amazon doesn't carry it no more. I'd have to get it from a third party seller. Whack. (did I buy the last one? lol)
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … That sticky film is litterally just starch. Starch is good for you. Your body needs it. If you hate it so much you can pre wash your rice and it will not be sticky at all but then you also wash all the joy out of life. But don't judge your food for how it looks when you digest it. It all comes out brown in the end. Also brown rice is lower on the glycemic index so if you are worried about that eat the brown rice, but since you don't have diabetes I would not worry about such things. What do you eat with the rice btw? I'm curious.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I was under the impression starch was evil. But if it's not, hey, that works out well for me doesn't it. P.s. I rinse the rice. One time I didn't and it came out gummy afterwards which weirded me out. (Still good though and ended up eating it all) Then I googled it and was like "oh." I used to rinse lentils or peas before cooking but didn't really know why I had to. But w rice there is a reason, you need to wash some of the starch out. But, even if I do this, the rice pot is still a chore to clean and the sticky film still happens when I wipe the inside. P.p.s. I eat the rice by itself. Im trying to eat more plain foods. I plan to use that stove I bought to cook split peas in water nothing else. (Which I did once on gas.. shared it w my mum) I was considering boiled potatoes also but hell if I'm going to peel them. I wish there was a place I can order them. But you can only get roast potatoes, mashed, or french fries. =/
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … Lately I've been wondering why the toaster fumes don't bother me. I wonder if it's simply because the toaster is so old. I smell it, but it doesn't seem harmful. I wonder if maybe it is, but to a degree too subtle to notice. EDIT: you say it's the nonstick, huh? I dunno if it's that. The egg cooker did it too. EDIT: Amazon has the microwave rice in stock again. Fistpump.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Why don't you try sweet potatoes?
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … If you cook rice in a regular pan it is much easier to clean. I am literally done cleaning it within 30 seconds. Just plain rice huh. I'm sure it's not the only thing you eat but if you only eat a few types of foods you can get nutritional deficiencies. The healthiest thing you can do is to eat a variety. Yeah sweet potaties are great. Seriously, eat your veggies. Peas are great to start. They have quite a lot of protein like beans and they are also veggies at the same time.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I'm eating peas for lunch. And sweetcorn and baby carrots with my salmon. I'm trying to do a carb free day again to see if I feel lethargic tomorrow like last time.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … Farm raised salmon? If so that may be why.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … It's £5 for a piece so it better not be farm raised
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Saved!NodleyEditing … https://photos.app.goo.gl/b9prURmCMYXzvV2f8 it's on the internet so probably not true but they are very good for you.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … peas, sweetcorn and baby carrots are not carb free. If you want carb free you need to stick to only meat, lard or oil.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I meant the big carby stuff like bread, pasta, potatoes, I'm not just eating meat alone because I need more vitamins. My experiment showed that carbs didn't matter this time, I woke up feeling very good.
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