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    @Demi Sneed Is it just an adaptation of the PC version? If it is, I will merge them.
    Same question for the 3DS version btw :)
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      Editing … You're tearing us apart!
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      Editing … It's for the good of this game. Let's not separate their fanbase. Later on, you'll be able to differentiate the two even though they share the same page.
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      Editing … No, they're spin-off titles set in the same universe. It'd be like merging FFX and FFX-2 just because they share some content. With that said, #Pangya: Fantasy Golf, #Super Swing Golf and #Super Swing Golf: Season 2 (enhanced release) should be merged into #Albatross18 as they're all just offline versions of the PC game.
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      Editing … "Let's not separate their fan base." This gives me a delightfully cruel idea. Let's merge every Sonic game into a single page.
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    • Sha Ember
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      Editing … This is disappointing to see all the remakes being erased from the database, we can't even see the different ratings. :( Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy II with the Dawn of Souls Remake and the new story, I suppose you'll merge Star Ocean and Star Ocean: First Departure, which are very different,
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      Editing … Genso Suikoden I & II (PSP version) will be erased and all the remakes from the Tales of series, Atelier, Hyperdimension Neptunia, etc. To be honest, I really don't understand. If you don't want to separate the fanbase, there is a "Media Franchise" category.
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      Editing … I straight up deleted some of my lists because I couldn't bear to see these awful changes :p
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    • Sha Ember
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      Editing … I don't even dare to play remakes anymore because I won't be able to find them a place in my lists. And I just can't say I played Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy II because they are too different from the remakes! Same as Final Fantasy III with the NDS remake! There are original characters in the latest which aren't in the first. :/
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      Editing … HEARTGOLD AND SOULSILVER, PAPE!!
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      Editing … OMG NO! >.<
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    • Papissama
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      Editing … You'll all understand when it's all finished. For the relevance of our lists and the consistency of our database, we need to have different layers of information and not keep everything at the same level (Categories > Pages > Sub-pages). It will make sense when the sub-pages level is done.
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      Editing … While it makes sense to combine different _editions_ of the same game (GTA V, Tomb Raider, Sleeping Dogs), full remakes have far too many changes to consider them the same game. VIVA LA REVOLUCION!
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      Editing … @Demi Sneed What about the relation between the DS and 3DS version?
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    • Sha Ember
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      Editing … I get it Pape, but please don't erase the pages, at least if you could find a way to keep all the scores and positions in our lists, or just tell us when you erase one so we can deal with the death of our loved ones and save a part of them. :'(
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      Editing … @Pape Badiane Different game, different story, different areas, etc. A good rule of thumb might be "Can you beat the remake with the walkthrough of the original?" In the case of the Tales games, as updated as they may look, you totally can. With #Ys III: Wanderers from Ys and #Ys: The Oath in Felghana, or #Silent Hill and #Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, you most definitely cannot, as they're entirely different games.
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      Editing … Well, I don't think you can really follow the walkthrough of the original Tales of Vesperia, and the remake. There are two new characters that are playable. So, in case you don't want to miss someting, you can't follow only the first walkthrough. :/
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      Editing … And what about Pokemon Yellow?
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    • Papissama
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      Editing … @Demi Sneed That's actually the rule I use :) @Sha Ember Before I erase a page, I transfer all reviews, ranks and likes (played, owed, etc) to the original game page. That's how Persona jumped from 58th to 17th (or something like that)
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      Editing … I need to take a closer look at it but it will be merged, I think. Remember that it will come back in another form, it's just that it points will go to the original and all of the version of Pokémon red/blue.
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      Editing … That's what I don't understand. Plus this isn't exactly right because you suppressed Final Fantasy I & II: Dawn of Souls and I lost it's rank and everything else. But I can't say I played the original Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy II, this is a wrong information.
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      Editing … I don't know Pape... When you rate two games differently, there's a reason. I played Pokémon Blue, Red and Yellow, and my rating are completely different, because of 'updates', and new things they implemented (for exemple, in Yellow, Pikachu was always behind you when you walked, or you could have the 3 starters). It changes a review, the feelings, the ratings. Don't you think?
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      Editing … Pidgey following me in HeartGold + Pokéathlon (I just happened to have an accented e on me) > Pidgey not following me in Crystal.
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      Editing … Ok, here's why I merged them all. The first question a user ask themselves when they come to Favslist is : "Where is Final Fantasy III ranked?". If there are 6 versions ranked in the all-time list, our list lose greatly in their relevance. When you get to the FF III page, this is where you should ask yourself which version to play. They should also be only one place to track all the conversation about FF III. This is where you should talk differences about each versions of the game. Favslist should be about discovery. If there are 25 pages about FF III, a FF III newbie will never know where to look. Again, I knew this decision would not be popular to start, but you'll have to trust me on this one. It will be better in the long run.
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      Editing … For everyone's sanity, we need to stop making replies here, and continue this discussion in the forum. (where there is a recently created thread for this exact topic)
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      Editing … But the notifications fill me with joy
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      Editing … I just stumbled on this comment from Gries from 6 months ago that illustrates my argument http://www.favslist.com/status/504078
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      Editing … Yes, but won't a newbie be lost if he see Ulty's comment on this page: http://www.favslist.com/pages/The-Legend-of-Zelda-Majoras-Mask/5771 . ''Great remake" .. ? Will the comments be separated for the remakes?
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      Editing … So we're not combining The Force Unleashed, right? Each version has different level design/combat/leveling system
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      Editing … @Leya Kath It's out of context because I just moved his comment. But yes, we'll be able able to filter the opinions for each version of a game.
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      Editing … Ok!
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      Editing … @Husky Wing It depends. If it's a downgraded version, I'll merge them even if there are minor differences. If the game is totally different in its design and storyline, then I'll leave them separated.
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      Editing … In the case of Force Unleashed, Krome Studios massively overhauled the game \o/
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      Editing … @Leya Kath, thanks for pointing out my review. I just noticed that the remake review is using the original's rating, and now I have no ideia what to rate it now. As for the debate, keep calm & trust Papi :D
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