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    @Pape Badiane, could we pleeeeeeeaaaaaaaaase separate this list into two lists - Favorite Boss Characters and Favorite Boss Battles/Encounters, 'cause I'm looking at my own list and I find myself confused by it and, because of that, I'm not enjoying the list itself or ranking pages in it.

    I'm actually thinking of scrapping the list altogether and not making a new one...

    There is a situation of where I don't like the boss, but I love the encounter and vice versa and to have both of these bosses appear on the same list is bizarre to me, to say the least. Also, I'd like to rank (MGS4 spoiler up ahead) SpoilerRex vs. Ray fight, but I can't in this current list and it's one of my favorite boss encounters... :(
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      Editing … There there, it will all be okay :c
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      Editing … There can be also several encounters with the same boss character in one game. Or over several games. So we really should have Boss Encounters imo. — Though I don't quite get what Favorite Boss (character) would be, for you, then. Can you give an example of a boss chara that is likable while their encounter isn't? Would it be just a "Favorite Fictional Character who happens to be a Boss in a video game" list, like a "Favorite Fictional Pirates" list or "Favorite TV Show Detectives" list?
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      Editing … Joker from Batman: AA is a brilliant boss with an atrocious boss fight. I'd say that he's the prime example of that. Selvaria Bles and GLaDOS on the other hand have OK boss fights, but they're far more compelling as characters and I have several others. Obviously the lists would overlap in some cases, but that's still a better solution imo than what we have now.
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      Editing … "Can you give an example of a boss chara that is likable while their encounter isn't? " I think #SHODAN is a great example of that. Her as a boss character is pure genius, easily one of the best villains in video games, but the actual boss encounter is pretty underwhelming.
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      Editing … I still don't quite understand what you guys mean with "boss" if neither "boss encounter" nor "villain". It seems like you're defining "boss character" as "a villain specifically in a video game". Why do VG villains get an extra name? What about villains in literature or comic books? If that's what it is, I don't agree with that meaning.
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      Editing … I wouldn't mind a separate gaming villains list but the bosses list can be fixed right now regardless. We shouldn't be ranking characters, we should be ranking the encounters so we need an option to add boss encounters to the database. Obviously it's easier just to use the database we already have and make do with characters but I agree with Pudding, the list doesn't make sense this way.
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      Editing … I'll look into it with Woody :)
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      Editing … I do like how Pudding was the one to raise the point but Pape still replies to Shige instead :p
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      Editing … Shige, yeah, poor naming on my part. I guess Fav Video Game Villains was more in line of what I had in mind with the other list and then we could go with Movie/Literature/Comics Villains and so on or we could go with a merged list for all the villains. I just want a Fav Boss Encounter list. 'at's all... :I
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      Editing … As long as it gets done, I don't mind, Rene. :P
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      Editing … There needs to be two lists one for Villains and one for Boss Fights/Encounters.
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      Editing … You could have a "boss fight" with someone on the villains list (Joker from Arkham Asylum) but his rank in the villains list would be based on his character not the fight if he had one and for the boss fight/encounter their rank would be based solely on the fight with them not their character. Characters should be able to be on both lists take Vaas for example just because you do technically have a "fight" with him you can't limit him to just the boss fight list because as a boss fight he was bad but as a villain he was excellent
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