• 7 years ago
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    I didn't expect to see Hayao Miyazaki react so closemindedly https://twitter.com/somebadideas/status/807141424030486530
    he comes out with a rather irrational response
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      Editing … What an asshole
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      Editing … Yeah, really. It'll be hard for me to think of him positively other than that he created nice movies, this being the only interaction I've seen of him with other people.
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      Editing … Me too
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      Editing … Aren't a lot of artsy geniuses dicks though? I remember hearing about Kubrick making Shelly Duvall's hair fall out.
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      Editing … homeboy dont give a fuck anymore. he tryna be retired and hes dragged into bullshit like this. i feel him.
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      Editing … he just scared his friends finna be out of a job cause them guys making machines that draw their shit
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  • 7 years ago
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    He's coming out of retirement... again!
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      Editing … Well, nobody's perfect! If Otaku did not buy expensive anime merch the industry would collapse. If I recall correctly for most shows the actual anime is not what brings in the money / it's treated as big neon sign that says "Buy our Manga / LN / Merch" as the profit margin there is much higher. It's also a bit of a hyperbolic statement, some of the most talented people in history were secluded geniuses who were disillusioned with society. If you don't care about anything else it gives you lots of time to focus on your work.
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      Editing … I don't think you're seeing what he's specifically referring to when he talks about "otaku." I'll quote the really good commentary on this screencap that I reblogged: "And something you people really, really, REALLY need to understand is that "otaku" is not a term of endearment in Japan the way “nerd” has become so in the West.... In Japan, they are the antithesis of a praiseworthy member of society.When the anime industry is, in Miyazaki’s mind, full of these kinds of people, who seal themselves off in insular groups and jack off to 2D waifus all day in between drawing said 2D waifus, that is a real problem.... Frankly, when I look at the entire catalogue of anime titles released over the past 5 years, I see what he means." (More in the comments to follow for the sake of readability)
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      Editing … "Real-life people do not act like the people in those shows.Real people do not say to their friends/rivals in love “hey, let’s take a shower together while I fondle your tits.” Real sisters do not fall in love with their oniichan desu~s after many sessions of counseling. I love the tsundere archetype, but a real-life tsundere is someone that nobody wants to be around because they treat other people like shit. I probably should devote an entire paragraph to lolis. (Most) people do not sexualize little girls, and in fact find the sexualization of of little girls to be repulsive. Why, then, are there so many lolis in anime? Because lolis represent a lot of things that a lot of men find desirable in women - innocence, petite bodies, cuteness in general. But for whatever reason, it has become not only okay, but the norm for anime to have prepubescent girls in compromising sexual positions. If you like flat chests - fine. If you like inexperienced girls - fine. If you like cute things - fine. Mashing all of those things together on a 12-year-old and slapping a bikini on her to appeal to otaku with those preferences? Most people will say that is fucked up. "
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      Editing … "Fanservice is off-putting to a lot of people. Incest is off-putting to a lot of people. Lolis are off-putting to a lot of people. Unbelievable characters and character interactions are off-putting to a lot of people. But those things are things that self-proclaimed otaku audiences embrace, so that’s what the Miyazaki-proclaimed otaku in the industry draw. Because animation studios make so little money off of anything but DVD and merchandise sales, and otaku are the only people who buy that stuff, the anime industry of late has become inbred and stale at best, and offensive and pedophilic at worst."
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      Editing … ^AKA "why I like anime way less than I used to when I was 13"
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      Editing … (This kinda turned into a rant. oops.) I'm a big proponent of allowing people to have whatever thoughts / take whatever actions they like as long as they are not harming others. Want to seclude yourself from society and do socially unacceptable things? Great, go do that as long as you are not hurting anyone. If the PC patrol had their way the entire world would be a boring, sterilized mess. I know you have seen my post about Lolicon so I won't bother going over that again in detail. Lots of people don't seem to be able to separate fiction and reality and don't want to accept that it is OK to 'do' things in the realm of fiction that are unacceptable in the real world. If people just want to get on with their lives and be left alone why is everyone so loath to just let them do that? I am aware "Otaku" is not a 'good' label to be given but I can relate. I don't give a rats ass about general society and don't relate to my culture or most of the other members of my generation, they just have an entirely separate set of values and interests that I could not care less about. I don't meet all the stereotypes, I'm a home-owner, I'm not physically fit but I am most certainly not fat and I have a decent management job with responsibility over others / I am basically in charge of software support for over 100 multinational businesses. My job involves me talking to people all day and I maintain great social relationships with them. I do however have anime art (some risqué) all over my walls, buy those $100+ figurines, watch unrealistic fanservicy shows, own a (non explicit) dakimakura, play eroge, plan on flying out to Akiba with my online friends next year and one of the only times I leave my house outside of going to work is to study Japanese at university. All I want is to be left alone and do the harmless things that make me happy but all society wants to do is butt their noses in, tell me that I am living life "incorrectly" and impose their own ideals about how life should work onto my life. If a group of people are able to club the financial capital together to support a niche industry within a niche industry that caters to their tastes, great. If it is true that the anime industry is full of Otaku, I don't see how anyone can be surprised that people who feel like they have no place in the world gravitate to working in an industry that makes them feel like they have a place. One where they finally have something that they can contribute to. I don't care what everyone else thinks, it's entirely possible that I'm just projecting but I can only imagine that these people don't care either. Hey general society guess what? The reason I am secluding myself from you is that I don't want to be a part of you. I'm not expecting you to change to fit me and I'm fully content to just let you go on without me. Please do not assume that I am some kind of danger or that I have no morals just because I don't feel like taking part in you, please do not try and force me to integrate into your culture as we have nothing in common. It would be fantastic if people could take a page from this book and realise that they don't have to be part of every single community and that every corner of the earth does not have to follow that individuals moral code / act in accordance with their sensibilities. (As a little closing statement I'd like to clarify that I don't consider myself to be a "secluded genius". Secluded yes, genius no.)
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      Editing … So basically whining because the shit they like isn't sustainable and they're mad stuff they dislike does so well. Very much reminds me of people who think gamers are the problem with the gaming industry. Also an animated show being unrealistic, no shit. The strength of the medium is doing things that aren't possible with movies. Miyazaki really just comes off like a jealous judgmental prick.
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      Editing … Just a question doesn't Otaku in Japan mean that your really passionate about something? Like Filly would be a horse Otaku or someone who really loves basketball is a b-ball Otaku?
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      Editing … I believe it literally means Fanatic. As far as I am aware people say X-Otaku where x is something you are obsessed with but if you just say "Otaku" it is implied you are this kind of anime etc Otaku.
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      Editing … Oh okay thank DA
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  • 9 years ago
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    Hayao Miyazaki working on new project, says “I’m going to continue making anime until I die”
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  • 9 years ago
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    "If you look at a classic Disney movie... nothing that is made today can compare to the detail put in the animation." - a Sailor Moon fan on modern animation. THIS MAN HERE WOULD LIKE A WORD WITH YOU.
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      Editing … Even modern anime today has better animation than old Disney movies. Redline- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t26m_Q6ENo
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      Editing … That's freaking beautiful. Agree so much. The comment above was said in a discussion of the animation techniques in Sailor Moon: Crystal (the SM reboot). Many of the special effects in it look computer animated instead of hand drawn and it looks bad as a result. :L Still, yes, lots of anime is very well done today.
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      Editing … I don't even mind computer animation if it looks good.
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