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    So many bands here who are NOT metal...
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      Editing … Like which ones?
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      Editing … Linkin Park, RAtM, SoaD, Manson, Zeppelin (an influential band, yes, but not really metal), Trent Reznor, Slipknot, Korn, Rammstein, Incubus, AC/DC, Papa Roach, Guns n' Roses,Taproot, Dope, Horse the Band. A lot of these bands are either hard rock or aren't even metal at all. At times a few of them may border metal, but for the most part they aren't. Don't get me wrong, though, I do enjoy a number of those bands, they just really aren't metal, at least proper metal.
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      Editing … Well that's what you're missing. This is an overall list of best Metal bands, not "proper Metal" bands. Every sub-genre counts, they exist for a reason: to illustrate how diverse and complex the Metal genre is.
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      Editing … Seriously though, some bands really should be disqualified here. This is like if some mainstream magazine like Time did a best metal band list.
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      Editing … Bands like Guns N' Roses and AC/DC are hard rock though. They don't even belong to a metal sub-genre.
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      Editing … Exactly. Same with bands like Korn.
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      Editing … Jonathan Davis himself doesn't like it when Korn is considered a metal band. Nu-Metal is basically just another form of alternative rock. There is nothing really "metal" about a band like Linkin Park. If there was a rock band list on favslist it would probablyl look alomst the same and that's kind of missing the point of having a metal list to begin with. I didn't vote for metal bands 2 weeks ago, because I knew something like this would happen.
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      Editing … Eh, I wouldn't call all of these bands metal, but I wouldn't call all of the movies in the Favorite Horror Films list horror. The scope for these genre lists tend to go broad because different people have different understandings of genre limits. I'm all right with it. Whether AC/DC makes the cut or not, I wanted a way to rank some metal bands like Sirenia, ReVamp, etc. that wouldn't make my favorite artists list, and this let me do it.
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      Editing … Me being a veteran of both the official Guitar Hero and Rock Band forums, I am absolutely sick of reading comments like these. Metal, like pop, rock, and electronic, is an umbrella term that encompasses many different subgenres, and just like those other umbrella terms, is not specific enough to be used as a reliable method of labeling genres. This i why subgenres exist, so that people can reliably compare the sounds of one band to another without losing the integrity of the argument. It's just the same that if you were to talk to a self-proclaimed gamer only to find out that he exclusively plays mobile games. Mobile games may not be what you think of when you think of games, and they may not fit into your definition of what is a worthwhile game, but nevertheless, mobile games are still games. The same is true when it comes to metal. Metal, by definition, is only characterized by heavily distorted and amplified guitars and an overall "loudness". That means that Megadeth, Linkin Park, Avenged Sevenfold, Motley Crue, Evanescence, Bring Me the Horizon, Led Zeppelin, Amon Amarth, Emperor, and Iron Maiden are all metal. Metal is too broad and too vague to have a list like this have any real value, just like the All Time Favorite Games list. So instead of arguing about what is and what isn't metal, figure out what subgenres you like the most, and find some bands that fit into that subgenre. You'll get more accomplished that way.
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      Editing … "Metal, by definition, is only characterized by heavily distorted and amplified guitars and an overall 'loudness'." You should check out Agalloch and Thy Catafalque, they'll shatter that definition you made there. But come on, there's no way that Linkin Park is METAL. Or Evanescence! I can't even wrap my head around that one! But seriously, maybe it's different on Guitar Hero and Rock Band forums, but if you go onto a metal forum and try to call a lot of those bands metal...yeah, that's not going to end well.
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      Editing … I don't really know anything about Linkin Park, but I'd say that Evanescence is metal.. as much as Within Temptation
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      Editing … If metal is "only characterized by heavily distorted and amplified guitars and an overall 'loudness", then we should probably also add all the noise rock and hardcore punk bands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEZ5yDTNrYo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvxTdGldnC0 What a useless and ignorant definition.
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      Editing … You are right, it is a very useless definition, which is the entire point of the post. You can't clearly define what is and what isn't metal, as there are many genre defying and hybrid sounds out there that are challenging our definitions. To attempt to create a black and white definition would be futile; it's much easier and wiser to use subgenres that give us those exact definitions.
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      Editing … I just see this list as an universal (umbrella genre) favorite 'rock' band list.
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      Editing … I'm glad someone said it lol. @Arik Manley i thought Slipknot was metal though.
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      Editing … Well, not enough to even be on Metal Archives. :p I guess they have a few songs that could fall under metal, like Vermillion, but definitely not stuff like Psychosocial. They're more of that heavy alternative/nu metal sound (and despite the name, most nu metal is NOT metal, like Linkin Park).
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      Editing … Their not alternative, i really hate alternative music (or at least what they play on the radio). What does alternative music mean anyway? I've also never heard of a genre called nu metal either.
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      Editing … Really? Nu metal was one of the biggest rock genres in the 90s/00s. Slipknot, Korn, Disturbed, Deftones, Limp Bizkit, and Linkin Park are all bands that have fallen under the genre at one point or another.
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      Editing … Using sub genres is fine, but rock, hard rock, stoner rock, alternative rock etc. are definitely not metal and bands of those genres shouldn't be on the list. It's really simple. I also agree with Arik Manley about Nu Metal problem. Bands like Linkin Park might have a few songs that fit the genre, but the band itself is as much metal as U2. You might as well call Queen a thrash metal band because of Stone Cold Crazy.
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      Editing … "Heavy metal is traditionally characterized by loud distorted guitars, emphatic rhythms, dense bass-and-drum sound, and vigorous vocals. Metal subgenres variously emphasize, alter, or omit one or more of these attributes." Judging from this statement, why aren't those bands metal? I'm not trying to be a jerk, it's a legit question.
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      Editing … Honestly, with that definition, you could put bands any number of hardcore punk or noise rock bands under metal. There's a lot more to metal than just "being loud", and you learn these things after listening to it for years and years. At this point there isn't one definition that unifies all of metal together, because by that definition, Agalloch and Thy Catafalque are arguably not metal since they often alter and omit ALL of those aspects. It's a controversial subject, but when it comes down to it, I can't really take anyone seriously who, with a straight face, can call Linkin Park real metal.
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