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      Editing … There is no category for Video Game Composer and "Designer" is the closest thing that allows us to rank him in Favorite Gaming Personalities. I did the same thing for Shoji Meguro.
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      Editing … There's "Video Game Enthusiast" (now). (Which is kind of a retarded category, but video game designer is simply not true. He has never been a game director).
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      Editing … Considering he's actually involved in the process of creating games or some component of them, designer is closer than "enthusiast," which seemed to me to be a catch-all term for people who aren't involved in making games but are involved in the industry in some other way.
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      Editing … You mean, #John Williams is a filmmaker?
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      Editing … Whatever. Neither category is correct.
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      Editing … … I don't want to be disrespectful but if you habitually end an argument with the phrase "Whatever." where you have or may have been incorrect, that's one of the little things that make you seem arrogant. If I may say so. — That being said, I agree that Video Game Enthusiast is a stupid category as well. Is John Williams a movie enthusiast, then? I'd rather like to see game composers becoming rankable for the Gaming Personality list via a "COMPOSES FOR [X]" relationship where the category of [X] determines the rankability of "this" person. A composer in itself is neither a gaming personality, nor a movie personality; a composer can write songs for the mere sake of writing a song. A composer who writes songs for a movie is a movie personality; a composer who writes songs for a game is a gaming personality; a composer who writes songs for both is both; a composer who writes songs for a theater play is a theater personality. And so on. @Pape Badiane — That's one of the reasons why soundtracks are so tough to implement: you can't just simply slap "OST" after every title! Music that has been composed to accompany a movie going or game playing experience first and foremost is something entirely different than a commercially distributed, potentially reduced list of often re-arranged individual musical pieces which lack the vital respective component for which they have been produced in order to augment.
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      Editing … I admit that the "Video Game Enthusiast" category is a bit out of place here but I kept it for now because it's practical. There are a lot of things I'd like to rework in our "category system" but that will have to wait until we finish more important stuff or manage to get more manpower. I agree with both of you though, and don't worry, we'll find the right solution. As you can see, things are moving a little faster than unikGamer, hopefully we'll get to it very soon.
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      Editing … Sorry if I come off as arrogant. It's just that I don't know what else to say when I feel that my argument is sound here, and when there is no wholly appropriate category for Uematsu currently, I don't know what you expect me to do to correct this. I don't think I said that "Video Game Enthusiast" is a "stupid" category--it fits well for people like James Rolfe who make Youtube videos about games, but aren't really connected to the industry in any other way.
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      Editing … On Favslist, people that are INVOLVED in the process of making games are considered "video game designers". People that have a strong connection with the gaming industry belong to the "Enthusiast" category. It's not perfect but that's the way it is right now. We'll improve it later.
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      Editing … Yes, I agree. James Rolfe is a good example for an enthusiast: he has spent quite a lot of his spare time into the AVGN project and made a name for himself as a gaming personality. He didn't earn any money with this (at least, at the beginning). And that's it, that's what's bugging me, Papi: enthusiast = fan. Nobuo Uematsu works professionally in the music/gaming business. To name him a fan *because of that*, because of his profession, is the only thing that I find stupid about this category. — Still, I'd rather categorize Uematsu as Enthusiast because that's one category that we know is "corrupt". Once Papi gets to re-address the category system as he claims to do, he will only have to take care of this single category. If we add Game Designer and possibly even more categories, things will quickly get messy. But that's of course just my take of the situation. I don't know how Papi thinks about this. Papi, maybe you can rename the category VG Enthusiast to "Video Game Other" or "Video-Game-Related".
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      Editing … I see. Then Nobuo Uematsu is a game designer (on Favsland), if I understand you correctly.
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      Editing … Again, I really am sorry for coming off like an ass before. "Once Papi gets to re-address the category system as he claims to do, he will only have to take care of this single category." That makes sense, though another approach could be to simply make a mental note to come back to non-designer "Designers" like composers when the category system is re-worked.
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      Editing … You didn't come off as a full-fledged ass. Just a tiny bit arrogant, is all ;^) — I wouldn't know how to easily distinguish non-designing designers from yes-designing designers (plus non-filmmaking filmmakers, non-theater-directing directors, etc.) other than going through the full list. And with game designer and filmmaker alone, those are two further long lists to go through, after having dealt with enthusiast. I'm just trying to look at this from a database managing standpoint. If you/we/Papi, one day, find a more proper way to deal with this exact problem, you'd want to quickly identify the pages that need changing. In fact, maybe it'd be very practical for this very problem if you created a hidden attribute NOTES in the database, Papi, invisible to common users (or anyone else but you, for that matter, because we only see the front end, not the actual database in phpmyadmin or whatever you're using) where you could write down that you intended to do this and that with that page. Or better yet: instead of a varchar NOTES, just do a boolean PERSONALITY_PROBLEM for this very problem.
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