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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … in this one he compares salad to eating cardboard https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nv29A1cruUg
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Hehe this guy is probably worth hours of entertainment. He seems completely terrified of plants. I’d laugh all day if I didn’t know people actually follow dietary advice from crazy youtube people and start exclusively eating meat and organs.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I ain't clicking that link but I assume he's talking about the anti nutrients I mentioned before which are a real thing.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … context is everything
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I'm still not clicking the link. Favslist memes overrule the need to know.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … He used to be vegan, I was surprised to hear that. P.S. This guy doesn't eat chicken or pork because they are fed seed oils. If that's true I should totally not eat chicken and pork. *Is* it true, though. I mean how would he know that. But a google search seems to corroborate what he says. Looks like it'll be just seafood and beef for me. (Even though he doesn't eat fish either.. but I never meant to follow his diet exactly. Up til now I assumed he was being overly restrictive by being beef only. But I am positively not okay with any seed oils.)
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … I see that in one of his most recent uploads he says he quit keto because his health deteriorated on the diet. But he was promoting that same diet to people before that (promoting a diet that he now says killed his health.) And now supposedly he has the right answer? Yeah no way. That and he fact that he was raw vegan also tells me that he has no idea about health and diet. How can someone who hops from diet to diet be trusted when it comes to nutrition? Am I supposed to believe him now? After all his diet fuckups that suddenly now he has figured it out? It does not seem like he has found a healthy diet anyone can rely on. I see he does know how to make money off of his supplements and online persona I’ll give him that. He seems a little bit like an evil version of vegetable police. But vegetable police knows he is a dumb shit and his audience knows he is a dumb shit and they even try to get him to eat a normal balanced diet. But when I look in the comments of Paul Saladino’s video’s there are a lot of people who trust him and actually listen to his advice (that same advice which killed his own health). This guy is hurting people and profiting off of them. Don’t base your diet off of what this guy says. Nutrition is not so simple as “oh there is this one molecule in this food which I think is bad so I don’t eat it” Then you might aswell give up on eating altogether. Water too. There is crap in water as well. But it’s still healthy to drink. It’s all about balance and quantity.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … @Nod you only tease him because you love him.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … My bro is still on his keto. I've lost 14lbs and he hasn't. He exercises for hours every day and I don't. There are no secret diets, nothing is known only by experts. Everybody just wants a quick easy fix because they're lazy but all a person needs is determination, discipline and a balanced diet. I struggle because I love beer, but you can see what happens when I stick to it, the weight falls off me.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … and if you get fat again don't blame the sheep. It's all your fault then.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I love a beer to wash down the grilled sheep.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Watch out or your brother might win. You know the tale about the rabbit and the hair right. Don't eat them though then you won't get the point.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Mmmm rabbit stew
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I'm in no danger of losing he flew back from Spain last night and was able to get his first takeaway in 3 months. The gap is just going to get bigger from here.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I had a T-bone steak! And grilled octopus!! I also bought grass fed kefir and milk. I ordered sashimi a few times, but dunno if I'll order again. I want, like, cooked shit. Oh and I'm on my second tub of protein powder. (Good with milk!)
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Saved!NodleyEditing … You're almost a man now. Wash it down with some beer or whiskey and you'll be there.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Oh Rock, you are on the Nod-diet I see.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I don't take protein powder, and if I did it would be with water. I get enough protein in my food.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … Alcohol causes electrolyte depletion. https://m.youtube.com/shorts/z1ub7PfX22o No mo' beer or whiskey for me, sorry! Although I found that I like using unopened beer bottles as makeshift dumbbells/weights. At least before my family drank them all. ,;_;
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … Note to self to take 2 tbs apple cider vinegar before bed and/or after meals. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fKnyQjL_NpY
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I'd rather enjoy life a little than have a full complement of electrolytes.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I recently was buying distilled water by the gallon, only just now discovered that distilled water contains no minerals. Cringe. I only bought it bc I wanted bulk water, and the handle on the bottle made it easy to carry home. Never again, though. (Plus it tastes funny.) -- "Distilled water is safe to drink. But you'll probably find it flat or bland. That's because it's stripped of important minerals like calcium, sodium, and magnesium that give tap water its familiar flavor. What's left is just hydrogen and oxygen and nothing else."
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Years ago my friend's dad jumped on the distilled water craze. They had a distiller installed in their home. I drank that water and all I could think of was.... “you actually paid to make your water more disgusting?.... Maybe there are more fools out there in the world then I thought. I could become rich if I had no sense of morality. “
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I am reading about the candida diet, and found out about low mold nuts (e.g. almonds) vs high mold nuts. (e.g. walnuts, peanuts) This is the first I've ever heard of such a thing. Is this fascinating or what? I have a 32 oz walnuts I am considering leaving out on the stoop. But later I read that the mold itself doesn't feed the candida, it's just that some individuals experience bad effects when ingesting mold. So now I have no idea. I thought walnuts were healthy? Linoleic acid and all that?
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Get a donner kebab and have a couple beers. You'll feel much better about life.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Rock are you collecting fad diets? It's starting to look like it.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … Yes it appears so. But I can always just pick and choose what works best for me. Also my health has improved since I've started looking up this stuff. I've cut sugar, cut seed oils, increased protein, increased fruits/electrolytes, started getting more sunlight, etc etc and it clearly seems to be working. I hate the dismissive standpoint, the attitude that we should pay zero attention to nutrition and that doing so is somehow stupid, and instead just eat whatever's normal. My family is like this. They eat cake for christs sake. Know when you're not even wrong. I don't consider myself a guru mind you. Of course I'm not going to get everything right on the first go, or even the second or third. It's still better than not trying.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I say eat a slice of cake if you really want cake. The secret to life is being happy. You just need to be happy and disciplined is all, don't eat cake every day, but don't not ever eat it.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Maybe the amalgamation of all the fad diets together create the most normal and balanced diet of all diets and you will reach diet enlightenment. I’m glad it’s helping you. It’s bad to not pay any attention to your diet at all. Most people will think they are eating healthfully but if you look at a population scale most people have a very bad diet. But that is their daily diet of course. An incidental slice of cake will not hurt your body. If it’s part of your standard diet it will hurt you of course but do your family eat cake every day then?
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I went around my neighborhood checking out coffee shops so I can get something warm to drink while I'm out being a public nuisance. I found exactly one place I liked, ordered a $6 latte and drank it outside. It was DELICIOUS. I felt energized and happy. Afterwards I decided to look at more options, got a $2 coffee from a convenience store on the wrong side of the tracks. Felt immediately drowsy afterwards. Why plain coffee has this effect on me I still do not understand. I didn't think it would this bad but it practically knocked the wind out of me, I had to go home and lie down (not sleep) and then have a 20 oz soda to in order bounce back from it. Someone explain this to me. Why would be latte be okay but coffee not? Is it simply because it contains milk? I wonder if there's something wrong with the equipment used to make the coffee, like rust, metal poisoning, or just rancid water. Or maybe (and perhaps more likely) ground coffee has just something wrong with it that my body doesn't like, whereas espresso is okay. (but aren't they the same thing?)
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … It actually could be the water, because water is not added to lattes. (just milk)
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … p.s. that thing I wrote earlier about high mold nuts is still on my mind. The fact that the mold does NOT feed the candida directly. If that's the case then why tell me about it?? The implications are huge. Because in that case there is a whole host of things I'm doing that are bad for candida that may not be food related. Mental stress, lack of sleep, going outside without a sweater, or hell, simply drinking soda. For one thing, though, I guess I should be less concerned about candida "safe" foods (because technically it's safer to just not eat), and look more at foods that actually kill candida growth. P.S. I wonder if supplements cause candida? Who can tell? If a walnut can make your body freak out "therefore causing candida" then certainly an artificially produced capsule with god knows what inside could too.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … "Something is poisoning us and nobody knows what it is." https://twitter.com/AlpacaAurelius/status/1584544297273249792
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Maybe the cheap coffee was brewed at a higher temperature or it was stronger? I have become sleepy because of highly concentrated coffee I brewed at a high temperature and steeped for too long. That extracts a lot of caffeine. Btw have you been tested for candida infection? If you have an infection like that you can get it treated within weeks. Otherwise trying to kill candida is a bit weird because it's just a gut bacteria everyone has and it's not a problem. It's only a problem when you have an infection with it because then there are too many of the same species crowding out the rest so then your digestion goes bad. But if you don’t have an infection like that, eating like you do is just as useless as eating like you have a peanut allergy if you don’t actually have an allergy to peanuts. You’d be going out of your way for something that is not even a problem for you. I know someone who did have some gut bacteria overgrowth (don’t remember what strain) and they got it treated with antibiotics and the pain was gone within weeks. Before that they avoided all kinds of food but it never got better. They wished they would have just gotten tested sooner and had antibiotics right away instead of years of avoiding gluten. Now they can eat everything no problem.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … If I spent as much time playing games as rukk does overthinking I'd have beat Turtles on the NES already.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … You know what I think klem? I think my body just rejects coffee. It might be the pesticides or the roasting procedure. I used to take green coffee supplements, I think I'll buy those again so I have another way to get caffeine. Those are probably safe. (or if not, it's still worth finding out) That still leaves the question as for why I tolerated the latte, I think honestly maybe the latte had a negative effect, but the milk masked the effects, either because my body really likes sugar, really likes milk, or both. P.S. I find it interesting that YOU get sleepy after strong coffee! So it's not just me then! P.P.S. I just had a bunch of cereal with milk. That shit is sooo good. I should probably just keep doing that. If my body likes it that much, it can't be wrong!
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … As for candida. I think I solved the moldy nut equation. Like you say, the proper way is to just get treated for it. The candida diet is obviously made up by someone who isn't a professional, and since it's made up, they get to add all sorts of completely bullshit clauses like the moldy nut part, that ends up being repeated by everyone else who shares the diet. Dawkins' meme theory in action. I have as much chance of fueling candida from walnuts as I probably would from touching a napkin. Just think how many chemicals are in that napkin!
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I think it's just because you had a coffee after already having a coffee.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … that makes too much sense nod for today's standards. Off with thine head!
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … The bone marrow supplements I bought caused my face to break out so I threw them out. I took it as a wake up call as well, decided to do a "vitamin elimination" where I don't take supplements for a while and then start reintroducing them one at a time. The trouble is deciding what order to reintroduce them. Iron is definitely the highest priority for me. But I probably shouldn't skimp on my multivitamin for too long? There are a bunch of others I only bought recently and was eager to try, before this happened.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I boiled chicken by myself for the first time ever. I had no idea it was this easy. It's literally like boiling eggs but you don't have to peel it afterwards. (In that case why even bother with eggs??) It's also delicious. Comfy piping hot, a great food to wind down with and probably really healthy too.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Just eat a balanced diet rukk and you'll get your iron and all the other vitamins too.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I think I get enough iron from the cereal I eat, but I could always use more. Iron is used to create blood so I would place it as the single most important supplement. Vitamin D is another supplement I can't have too much of, my tablets are 1000 IU each but I've seen supplements that have 10,000. But iron is a supplement I'm afraid of /not/ taking, unlike with D.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Isn't cereal like.....sugar coated processed junk food? Beans are great for iron btw. I actually notice they have loads because since I eat them I never get tired anymore after my period from the blood loss. Woman actually need twice the amount of iron compared to men because of the bleeding once a month thing (and men need more zinc because of fapping). If I can get enough iron by just eating, no way does a guy need iron supplements. Just get your iron from food. That is the best way and you can’t accidentally take too much. Too much iron is not good. It can kill you.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Eat a steak once a week. Or make a spaghetti bolognese or a lasagne or something with beef mince. You could even have minced beef and onion pie, the options are endless!
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … The cereal I was eating is Ezekiel which has only 1g sugar. (interestingly it's listed an added sugar and I normally don't buy ANYTHING with added sugar. This cereal is the sole exception. Sugar isn't even listed as an ingredient, so I assume the 1g comes from malted barley.) Recently and unexpectedly I've discovered another cereal I actually like: Post Shredded Wheat, which has no sugar at all. However, I eat Ezekiel with water and occasionally kefir, whereas I eat Post with milk, so Post may be the more sugary one in practice. In fact, I've started to wonder if it's really healthy to consume that much milk at once and whether my body is good at digesting it. So I'm wondering if I should ignore all the fad diets/advice and just focus on foods that aid digestion, like Ezekiel, beans, and fruit. I might cut kefir altogether since I was only consuming it because, supposedly, it's healthy. (not to mention it's expensive, which = healthy)
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I ordered a strip steak from a polish restaurant. grass fed but probably cooked in vegetable oil. Ironic.. isn't the point of grass fed is that the cow wasn't fed vegetable oils? Still, the steak was really good if a little tough. (which I hear strip steak always is) I got it medium rare btw, or at least that's what I ordered. But this seemed pretty damn rare. Red inside, and dripping blood. The good shit. I still wonder if I should have drank it instead of pouring it down the drain.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Yummy. That's why I always have chips with steak so I can mop up the juices
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … That's gross. You can lap up eachother's juices all you want but I don't want to see or hear about it. Oh your cereal is like a healtheir granola or something. Does seem expensive though. I just eat oats with my own added nuts, seeds and fruit. Nice and cheap. Expensive is not always healthy though lol. Junkfood is expensive if you look how little food is actually is in it. Crisps for example are just one potato sold for 2 euro's.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … It's mad expensive but I'm getting what I pay for. In fact I wonder if I'm actually underappreciating the healthiness level of this cereal because I've been brainwashed into thinking grains = crap, and only meat and fruit are good. I was mainly eating it for the fiber without thinking about all the vitamins it contains and possibly other benefits, at least according to the box. And then again fiber is really important probably. I've never felt not good after eating the stuff.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … We're having a beef stew tomorrow. Just think of all the nutrition in it with all those ingredients.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … my mom made beef stew, I don't like the oil she uses but I caved in and ate a shit ton. Afterwards I found out she put worcestershire sauce in it? Expired worcestershire sauce from 2019. Ingredients: sugar, molasses, tarmarind. Fuck stew, man. Just give me the meat. All oils, liquids, broths, sauces, condiments are usually crap. That's why I like to order steak when at a restaurant. Just a slab of meat on a grill. If the menu says it comes with sauce then I choose something else. And yes, for the record, I had to look up the correct spelling for Worcestershire when writing this post. YOU try spelling it. I dare you.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … It's easy to spell. So is Leicestershire. It's pronounced Lester-sheh lol, it's funny watching yanks trying to say it.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … and she says I pay too much attention to ingredients. She literally does not look at labels for anything she buys. Sure, ma. Go and bake more apple cake why don't do. Waste more apples. Go and pour some candy into your stew. Are you sure you have enough in there? She says she used 2 tbs. I should ask why not 3.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … Lester-sheh totally does not look like it would be written leicestershire. It's like half the word is silent. =P
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Wuster-sheh is the same
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Wait, isn't a stew just meat, veg and water? With a bit of salt and pepper?
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I think it's common to add broth to it. (even though if you cook meat and veggies in water then it would basically become broth anyway, so.. what the hell, am I right?) Or bouillon cubes which is basically broth in dried form.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … btw there's one more reason I wouldn't want to skimp on the iron supplements. I hear it takes over a month for the body to produce blood? Meaning that if I decide I want some, it's too late to go back in time and tell my past self to take my iron. Granted if all nutrients were this slow-acting, then that would be different, but I assume that is not the case. (and what nutrient is more important than blood? blood is literally what carries nutrients throughout the body) EDIT: Iron overdose is a thing though. "At high doses, iron is toxic. For adults and children ages 14 and up, the upper limit -- the highest dose that can be taken safely -- is 45 mg a day." My supplement provides a little over 100% daily value. So how much is 100%? "The amount of iron you need is: 8.7mg a day for men over 18." hmm...
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … That makes no sense. You can just as easily eat iron foods a month prior instead of taking supplements. Taking supplements won't magically speed up the rate your body produces blood. Just eat and chill. You are not anaemic because you would know if you were. You don't need them pills.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … on second thought it's really unlikely I have iron overdose. as for anemia it's something I've wondered about. Considering what the symptoms are, it's possible that I have it. Those iron supplements are looking strong at this point. Thank klem!
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … I think you need an unlimited blood test subscription to ease your hypochondria. ;-P
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … Supplement #1- Deva Vegan Cal-Mag Plus. Serving size is 3 tablets, so I took all 3 at once even though I normally take one a time. This gives me an idea- I should try all the multiple tablet-per-serving supplements first. After all, I'm trying to find out which ones if any inflammate me. The ones that require only one tablet won't make a noticeable difference. P.S. I googled what the founding fathers ate, and it tells me George Washington liked hoecakes. (which are apparently just cornmeal pancakes) For this reason I actually allowed myself to eat cornbread. !!! It was delicious, and now I'm wondering if I should start eating cornbread regularly, or corn muffins, or hoecakes (but I don't think I've EVER seen a place that serves hoecakes.. I didn't even know what hoecakes were).. if only I can find a place that sells it without seed oils, which is probably unlikely. I bet even the ones I ate had seed oil, but because they came from a restaurant, I have no way of knowing. And the funny thing about not knowing, is that it magically becomes safe to eat it.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … What klem said got me thinking. Is there even a way to measure how much blood you have? I heard of blood pressure tests, blood glucose monitors, but no way to know your amount of blood except to calculate how much you've lost. Eerie.. (also, didn't I read once, that your body creates the plasma in a shorter time frame, but the red blood cells is what takes much longer and requires the iron? Meaning your blood could lack potency. Maybe there's a way to measure *that*.)
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Anaemia is a lack of healthy red blood cells. For anaemia they compare the amount of red blood cells to the amount of haemoglobin in the sample. They don't need to know the weight/litres of blood you have because that says absolutely nothing (unless you maybe have a gunshot wound). Everyone has about the same 5 litres of blood but someone with anaemia will have comparatively fewer healthy red blood cells. That's what they're looking for because the blood cells transport the actual oxygen.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I bought creatine supplements and the capsules are yellow. (or clear capsules I shoud say with yellow powder inside) See.. I don't know what color creatine is supposed to be but I don't imagine it would be a primary color. I'm weirded out. Should I take a picture, I wonder? You guys wanna see? =P
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Saved!NodleyEditing … No ta
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Isn't it cheaper to just buy a variety of food?
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Are you still going to eat the yellow piss pills?
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I don't know any other species that needs to take supplements. Humans are doing this shit wrong.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I don't know of any other species that has to cook meat in order to be able to consume it without dying, drink milk in adulthood, or drink milk of another species. Humans must be doing this shit wrong. P.S. cornmeal cereal exists does it not? Why did I not think of that! Much better cornmeal option than cornbread or muffins. *gasp* Maybe I can use my microwave to make it!! =D
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I don't believe this. It's the capsules the!selves that are yellow. I had to break one apart with my fingers to find out what's in it. And I didn't see any mention of food coloring on the label. Too weird. Do I throw them away?
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … On the subject of food coloring, I hear red 40 is not safe and has even been linked to ADHD in children. I see that there's red 40 in my fruit punch flavored Powerade, so I won't be buying this flavor anymore.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Lots of people eat uncooked meat.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Don't people cook meat to kill off eggs from flesh eating insects and parasites? Also bacteria of course and taste. I’m sure you can eat a hunk of sterilised flesh just as easily as cooked but yeah…. Cooking meat seems like the smart thing to do or you might end up with meat that looks like this doggy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DN7pY5vnUA
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I googled if you can heat kefir and turns out you can't! It will kill all the good bacteria. Bummer! Looks like kefir is out, for at least several months until warm weather returns. I have one bottle left, I'll probably just use it up and that'll be it. Will continue to buy milk though, bc I love cereal with milk, and I can microwave it! =D
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … ok what if. I make polenta aka cornmeal mush. But I'll make a big batch and put it in the fridge, and whenever I want some I just microwave it! YES!!!
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Should adults be drinking milk?
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … yes yes, since we're not animals. (or at least, not like *other* animals) The milk thing was just making a point. Though I totally bought the argument while I was vegan. Every now and then I still wonder if it was true. On that note I decided to take a short break from boiled chicken, I'll see how that goes.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … If you enjoy messing with your natural hormone balance on a daily basis, milk is the way to go. I really get that people like the warm and fuzzy feelings they get from those milky hormones but I think it’s a bit creepy. I’m very glad I stopped drinking it. I actually can’t stand the taste anymore funnily enough even though I used to love it. That kind of surprised me. Recently someone accidentally fed me some cow milk and it was so disgusting. It really is baby food meant to be appreciated by babies.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … Hormones eh? I thought the reason I liked it so much was the sugar.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Sure there are sugars in it but the is not that strong to make you like it so much. Oat "milk" is maybe even sweeter in taste but it's not at all addictive like milk. When you drink milk you want more and more. That's them hormones that keep the calf interested in the milk and the fatty creaminess full of callories. Makes you feel cosy and happy and content like a baby calf.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … oat milk is sweet only because they add sugar to it. When I first forayed into plant based milks I was excited by good they tasted (I was like how is everyone sleeping on this vegan thing?? this shit is GOOD) but after a while I would lean toward the unsweetened varieties. But now I see them all as processed junk. It's like drinking glue. "When you drink milk you want more and more." Meh. That applies to a tremendous amount of food and drink out there, whether or not it's healthy and whether or not it's vegan. In fact I had long considered that to just be a persistent aspect of the human condition. We weren't really designed to say "ok I've ate/drank enough x, wouldn't want to get fat". If I decide to boil ten eggs, I end up eating all ten. Etc.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … None of the oatmilk here is sweetened. Oats naturally have sweetness to them. I can't stomach the sweetened varieties of plant milk. They don't sell well here either. I can make my own oat milk. You just cook the oats and strain the fluid. It tastes fine but the texture is just a little watery. It's just oat juice but factories are better at creating the right texture if you want to do stuff like cappuccino. It’s not a necessity and also not a health food (but also not unhealthy it’s just meh) but it's a nice option to have for coffee and stuff and the odd occasion that I want cereal. but usually I just like the taste of oatmeal with plain water.
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Yes that applies to many foods. I didn’t explain very well but I know from experience that for milk it’s a different type of wanting than say crisps or soda or whatever. When you drink milk on occasion I don’t think you get that feeling but if you have it often you get a type of addiction that I can’t explain very well. It’s a strange feeling. Not just a feeling of “oh this tastes so good I want moar!”
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … well granted when I have cereal I tend to pour myself seconds/thirds. I don't know when to stop and I'm not exactly sure why it's so damn good. Also, when I get a latte I tend to want another one immediately afterwards but thus far I've managed to restrain myself and come back later before ordering another one. (I'd find it kind of embarrassing to order a second one immediately after downing the first.)
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … My new religion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuisine_of_the_Thirteen_Colonies
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Are you sure you are not a relative of Vegetable Police?
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Saved!NodleyEditing … My religion is the church of beer drinking
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I was watching this YouTube about a guy repairing a truck. He turns on the camera and say's it's 9am time to start and then he cracks open a can of beer :D That's my kinda YouTube!
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … https://beeroclock.in/
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … note to self to check the ingredients on everything I own for vegetable glycerin bc I hear that is a sugar alcohol typically made from soybean, coconut, or palm oils. Well I guess I don't need to check every single thing I bought, the two things I really only need to check are my protein bars and protein powder. Hmm, on second thought, I wonder if my diet sodas, Powerade, or Red Bulls have it. THAT would suck.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I just bought a bag of polenta and some dried yellow split peas to make pease pudding. Gonna have myself a colonial good time!
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Wait wait wait...... Let’s get this clear…….you are worried about your diet and health and obsess about little details and shame your mother for making home made apple pie………..but.... You’re still eating basic junk like protein bars and drinking soda and red bull no problem? Okay. This is fine. :-P I don’t know what pease pudding is but it sounds good.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I heard about it from the colonial cuisine wikipedia page but apparently it's a traditional english dish. Also known as pease porridge. It's just cooked yellow split peas. (so, pea soup basically?) Can also be made with lentils. (but isn't that dal/curry?) In Southern England, it is usually served with faggots. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(food) I've never tried a faggot but would love to sometime. Definitely check out that page btw, there's a photo of a faggot being cooked.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Hehehe faggot
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Saved!NodleyEditing … I've got nothing against faggots, I just don't fancy them
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I'm going to poach eggs in the microwave: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4tjZ1ej_H1E Apparently you're meant to put more water than needed and just scoop out the egg. That looks easy enough. Let's see how I screw it up.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … It is easy, I do 2 eggs for 90 seconds
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … oh, so if I cook multiple eggs at the same time the cooking time has to be increased? shit, I was gonna try to do 4 eggs at once for 60 seconds. thanks for the heads up
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … ok so I mentioned Red 40 before, but apparently Yellow 5 and 6 also have a bad rap. So maybe I should avoid orange flavored Powerade as well. Arguably at this point I should probably drop Powerade altogether, but I still see the electrolytes/hydration as a benefit, and the White Cherry flavor doesn't have any food coloring whatsoever, so I always have that as a last resort. Mixed Berry may also be tolerable, since it uses Blue 1 which doesn't seem to have as bad of a reputation as the aforementioned Yellow 5/6 and Red 40. Ideally though every flavor of Powerade should be White Cherry and it's kind of messed up that it's not.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … heh, it says Blue 1 is banned in the United Kingdom. Good on them. But I think I should be ok.
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Saved!NodleyEditing … What is blue 1?
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … It's blue food coloring/dye used in sports drinks, soft drinks, candy, gummies, etc.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I made pease porridge, it was great. Nice hot food! https://i.imgur.com/cONG7rO.png I'm glad I took the time to cook it well enough so that it really was like porridge, not soup. Shared it with my mum, who went for seconds, lol. Although she criticized the lack of kielbasa/ham/bacon. x(
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Saved!NodleyEditing … Sounds lovely.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … So as it turns out, diet Pepsi does not contain vegetable glycerin, neither does Red Bull, Powerade, or my protein powder. (which I barely use btw, considering giving that up) But the No Cow protein bars do contain it, listed as simply "glycerin", and not only that, it's listed as the third or so ingredient, implying there's actually more of it in the bar than there are chocolate chips, LOL. D= But the bars are so effing good that I actually might not care. These are like crack to me.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … P.S. I recently found out by coincidence that my calcium supplements also contain glycerin. So now I can't decide whether I should keep taking them. Are the benefits of calcium worth the drawbacks of seed oils? (this supplement actually contains a lot of things actually: calcium, magnesium, zinc/copper/boron, L-Lysine, vitamins C, K, D2, wow!) https://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamins-Cal-Mag-Tablet/dp/B06XHHFRB5/ Seeing as I'm apparently ok with the protein bars, this indicates that I find seed oils harmful "only in theory". But then again the calcium is beneficial "only in theory". I could be just fine getting it from food sources. (oh, and btw, I tried finding other calcium supplements online, but it's one of those supplements which, like vitamin E, tends to always contain oil or glycerin. Probably due to the fact that calcium is fat soluble. sigh)
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Saved!KlemoibEditing … Why do you keep focusing on individual componants and ingredients though? Food can not be evaluated that way. Food is a synergy of all the individual known and unknown components contained within. Just evaluate with your stomach.
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