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      Editing … The power of music for sure. But for REAL goosebumps this little tune has it beat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aNlfBH3f5w&ab_channel=sschafi1 You know, I'd actually like to learn some game music on guitar but I don' treally know what I can learn. Anything I can think of off the bat that I like is piano.
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      Editing … Oh god I sometimes forget how impressive alttp soundtrack is. Pure craftsmanship. OG game composers really did squeeze out every last drop out of those chips. Also DK country is unbelievable in what they achieved in the soundtrack. Those restrictions really seemed to have gotten the creativity juices flowing for some composers. Most of them would prefer to work without restrictions I bet but I really think something unique and special came out of the 16 bit era and even a little bit beyond that. Even midi soundtracks had a certain charm to them and it’s difficult to make something good with midi but if it’s done well I really like it. I am still impressed with some scores….. Sorry, just nerding out. Don’t mind me.
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      Editing … Quite a lot of my favourite game music is from the 16 bit era. And I don't think that it's down to nostalgia, I genuinely believe it has it's own sound and charm. The Sonic the hedgehog music for example, that was the first thing that come to my head. I bet you know every tune, they were so memorable.
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      Editing … This come to mind too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmk59bpyarQ&ab_channel=LeeFarquhar If you were around in 1992 when all the dance music was about this was brilliant.
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      Editing … Oh yeah. I really like sonic music too and I don't even play sonic games. Yeah 16 bit just really has something. It's kinda sad to see videogames all grown up now that I think about it. Not for nostalgia's sake but for the creative way games were made with no idea how games were "supposed to be". Just a bunch of programmers and designers, composers, artists and writers trying to see what they could make. I hope the charm from back then still lives on somewhere in gaming.
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      Editing … "Anything I can think of off the bat that I like is piano." — "Matoya's Cave" comes to mind. Could be the case that it's not for beginners but you can make it your goal to learn that song. Either break it down into baby steps, or work your way there with other, smaller (possibly non-FF) songs. — Besides, you can still play the songs on acoustic guitar even if they're for piano. This collection for example happens to start with "Prelude": https://youtu.be/9Q3_fB1LqV0
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      Editing … “Not for nostalgia's sake but for the creative way games were made with no idea how games were "supposed to be".” — I believe @explojin has it figured out. The indie games scene is where you can find that experience now. https://itch.io/games Granted, there's no quality guarantee like the SNES had. I feel like those indie games are more comparable to the 1st and 2nd generation of gaming. And they lack the "great music" thing … Never mind. I wanted to make a point about creativity but immediately argued myself to the ground.
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      Editing … hehe I love indie games. I see magic there sometimes. Not all of them are great but sometimes a gem is born. What I find with indie games though is that most of them are based on ideas of existing games. They use other games as inspiration and thus a lot of indie games still stay in the safe confinements of what a game is supposed to be. I like games where the experience is based on something outside of gaming. You can really feel if the developer has a vision or a passion in their life that they want to share. Something they think is worth saying. Something more than trying to make a fun game. It keeps things interesting. I always find it so endearing when old games try to tell really profound stories through blips and bloops. You can see the developers had something to say in spite of the limited technology. That’s what I find impressive about Terranigma for example. If you play it it can feel like you really did go on a century long expedition through evolution to revive the dead earth. Even a lot of very important story elements are all told through gameplay. I almost find it hard to believe how well that story telling worked and it’s a damn snes game. It has no business being that good.
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      Editing … that guitar dude is amazing btw.
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      Editing … That dude is level 99 in guitar I'm more like level 3
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      Editing … Some of the games of GMTK Game Jams are not based on existing games, as far as I know. https://gmtk.itch.io/
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      Editing … @nod, have you considered going to a music school? During the pandemic, my school managed to continue teaching via video chat. Sure, my teacher prefers the real meet-up but it's better than nothing. Maybe that works with your work-related travelling.
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      Editing … Other than that, try doing the baby steps thing I mentioned. This guy teaches some ideas for practicing isolated techniques each morning on piano (which I recommend, it helped for me) https://youtu.be/o4FhUkHKWts You can probably find (→ create your own) a similar routine for guitars. Plus, search for guitar notes for any song and start practicing. Small, one-page songs. Start small, then grow.
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      Editing … For example, this song: "Traverse Town" of Kingdom Hearts. I don't know your taste but this is a really simple and really lovely song. I don't really know how to search for guitar notes but … You can find the piano notes here if they are a help: https://ichigos.com/ (website doesn't have direct and permanent links to the songs, but search for "Kingdom Hearts" and then browse for Traverse Town arranged by Alonzo Griffin). Or, I dunno, does this help? https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/misc-computer-games/kingdom-hearts-traverse-town-tabs-1029701
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      Editing … I'll have a go. But I've really only learned the CAGED system and the barre chords used in rock/blues songs. Finger picking and scales and all that stuff is way above my level. It might be rewarding to learn though.
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      Editing … That's why I keep mentioning baby steps. One such step could be to learn to play the first bar (or four bars) of a song – no more than that – and just get familiar with that first. Or alternatively, to learn a technique or … whatever you call them (like arpeggios) that is one of the requirements for that one song you want to learn. Or it could be how to read notes for guitars in general in a way that works for you (if that's something you're still uncomfortable with). Or, something I sometimes do too, you can pick a note sequence that you want to learn and modify it (i.e. one note less, or more manageable rhythm) to be easier as an intermediate step.
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      Editing … And play slowly. I do that too, repeatedly, where I sit down with a new video game song and I immediately want to play it in the tempo that I know it in. But it helps to start slowly and first learn to play the whole song (or a sequence) in one slow-mo but smooth tempo, without slowing down or pausing. That can be a baby step too.
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      Editing … Actually, this video seems like it was made for you: “Riff Deconstruction: Final Fantasy Prelude” https://youtu.be/TGjhcmgzJAM
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      Editing … I picked the first bit in in 5 seconds so maybe I can do it. I have to go get ready for football now though. It kicks off in 6 and a half hours and I have nowhere near the level of beer in my body that I would like
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      Editing … Completely unrelated to what you're talking about now but I went to an Indiecade in NYC quite a few years back and there were a bunch of games using unconventional controllers.. Like one used an old telephone operator switch that'd you would swap the wires to get different audio clips to figure something out... I only have a vague memory of it...
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      Editing … @ Wood I don't specifically mean that a game is based on say Mario or Final Fantasy but that a lot of Indies are trying to make a "game" just to make a game without any real drive or will behind it. I really feel like I have seen something like all those games before. They are very "gamey". A lot are also based on rearranging pop culture or existing games or game concepts. There is nothing wrong with that at all I just personally get tired of things I have already seen a lot without anything really new added. I've just played too many games. I prefer games made with a certain kind of mentality. It's not really tied to a genre. Just games made with a strong vision a lot of passion and time, care and effort (and preferably a bigger budget if necessary). I'm spoilt for games I know. Though a small simple and clever game is always good aswell.
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      Editing … I get what you mean. In the 70s, 80s or even 90s game makers where still figuring out what that even means, "game" – but nowadays, one of the definitions has evolved to dominate all others, somuchso that it easily becomes all the same. Especially, if you've been gaming for so long … I reckon bookworms have similar issues where, once they've read so much there just isn't anything new and interesting or different to read anymore. It's all more or less the same.
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      Editing … … One more reason to try and learn something entirely new every so often. Like, how to play an instrument ;^D
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      Editing … Yes that’s exactly it. I think there are still games out there that can surprise me but yeah I have to look harder. I’ve gotten way picky. The adventure of finding out what a game really was or could be was so exciting. I don’t even think the answer can be found but people have just settled on an answer for the time being. But I’d like to see people keep on trying to find new answers anyways. Other hobbies are a good backup though and a good investment in yourself if it’s a productive hobby like playing instruments. :-D
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