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    Just saw the torture porn scene. Hideo Kojima is dead to me. This scene makes no sense on so many levels – but hey, as long as there are bikini boobies, anything goes, right?

    Before this, I considered the game to be sexist and sometimes cringy but overall still rather good. Now it has become *impossible* to recommend. It's still fun to play (mostly). However, the "story" is … not only the low point of the series, but rightout offensive.

    Just spend your money elsewhere or make sure to download / rip it.

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      Editing … Lol I just googled some scenes because I’m not familiar with the game. Can’t say I find the things I saw sexist, just campy and degenerate. First I saw some girl being electrocuted. This scene on its own seemed pretty tame to me but I saw another scene where the same girl is about to be raped after she was half drowned, but then she goes superwoman on all the soldier around her and violently stabs and squishes their penises. The penis stabbing after the attempted rape actually feels more like some feminist’s power fantasy than anything else. But that’s the grossest thing I’ve seen from the game. It’s really gory and violent. Not my cup o tea. Give me games like katamari any day. I could never really get into war games and violence games. I guess that people like the adrenalin rush but to me that adrenalin rush is the exact thing I am trying to avoid in games. I’m trying to relax and play something interesting not trick my body into thinking I am in some life-threatening situation. I guess to each their own though.
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      Editing … I haven't seen that second scene yet. Sounds like more "good" moments are waiting for me. — Yeah, I don't like the way the first scene is presented, with the camera lingering on the tits for so long, for example – let alone that it even exists. I feel bad having paid 25 bucks for this crap. I was *just* before this scene enjoying her company on a mission, too. I am *very* disconnected from the "supposed" narrative, and I don't see how this can be justified by Hideo anymore. The stuff with Paz in Ground Zeroes, too. He's just serving up easily sexualizable content for doujinshi and pr0n artists to continue off of, at this point. I can't imagine how bad it must be for Death Stranding.
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      Editing … Oh sorry! I gave you a spoiler it seems...but seeing your opinion on the game I'm not sure how much more I can ruin your experience further. I hope death stranding is as boring as it looks. Crazy story is fine as long as there is no gore and stuff ghost things are fine to an extent. I liked the walking sim aspect. Not many actual walking sims around to choose from. I might try it one day when I get a cheap ps5 or something. But I might also forget the game exists before I own a ps5
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      Editing … oh wait.... I forgot about long cutscenes and plot.... never mind. I just want to do the walking.
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      Editing … I mean one of Kojima's first games allowed you to grope/sexually assault most of the female characters in the game. The dude has always been weird. I consider Ground Zeroes a lot more tasteless. Personally I'm just glad the waterboarding scenes featured in the promos never made it into the final game and the child soldier aspect was mostly glossed over.
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      Editing … Maybe he's got some rape fantasies. Who knows. Or a crotch fetish. Wouldn't put it past him. He seems facinated by crotches male or female. He don't care he'll feel em all.
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      Editing … I don't remember the torture scene in context but just watching it on YouTube it seems pretty tame. But that whole storyline was stupid from start to finish. At this point I'm in for Kojima games for gameplay, not story.
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      Editing … “At this point I'm in for Kojima games for gameplay, not story.” Lol that’s pretty much a big diss towards his filmmaking ambitions.
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      Editing … Yeah, after Ground Zeroes I realized that Kojima still has solid ideas for a story, but lost the ability to tell it in an interesting or at least competent manner. I skipped MGS V altogether, because I saw where GZ was going and I didn't like it (previously I bought PS2, PS3, PSP and Vita for MGS games...). Nevertheless, had high hopes for Death Stranding as he could start from scratch and did not seem to have any limiting factors that time. Unfortunately, the interesting premise was told so poorly that the only thing that kept me going was the unique and excellent gameplay loop.
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      Editing … Don't worry, Klem. I stopped reading your comment as soon as I noticed it.
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      Editing … I did not know about that groping game until now – rather, that it featured such a "feature". The game looks otherwise very interesting and atmospheric. Too bad.
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