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Saved!Odyssey RPGEditing … Should check out Hunter x Hunter if you haven't. -
Saved!Silent GamerEditing … Which one? I'm seeing two different ones. One from 1999 and one from 2011. -
Saved!Odyssey RPGEditing … 2011 :)
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Saved!Silent GamerEditing … Cool, I'll check it out :)
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Saved!MarconeAnteliusEditing … Sent you a friend request. I haven't used this site in months though. -
Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I tried to jump on the bandwagon and make an account just now but the site is incredibly stingy about what password you choose. (it has to be rly super secure!!!1oneone) Maybe ill try again later using google account sign in. -
Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … Ok, now I can't decide whether to sign up using google or twitter. What difference does it make exactly? People who know my google or twitter wont know about my animelist. But wont people who know my myanimelist know my google/twitter? Ugh this is stupid. The password requirement screwed me over.
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Saved!MasterCrashEditing … You may have google account and not twitter, and you may have twitter and not a google account. So they give you options, something you don't seem to be good with. -
Saved!MasterCrashEditing … Accepted your friendship request Silent. You should check me mangalist for great manga.
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Saved!DoubleagentEditing … I've added you. How on earth did you only watch 2 episodes of Kill la Kill? It's not even started at that point. -
Saved!MarconeAnteliusEditing … I stopped Kill la Kill 10 mins into the first episode. I hated the animation.
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Saved!Silent GamerEditing … I've never had much patience for tv @Doubleagent Louis :P And that includes anime. I am slowly coming around though. I will probably go back to it, it was weird as hell :P
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Saved!DoubleagentEditing … KLK is actually the show that I've rewatched the most of any show. It is weird, lots of things it does are kind of parodies of anime tropes but it does have a coherent plot that all comes together. It takes silly stuff and treats it as if it's totally normal and serious on purpose. It's so good at creating hype for whatever is going on. I'd say it's important to watch the subs by Underwater as they put lots of effort into typesetting them to match the feel of the show as opposed to most of the other groups that just slapped white text over everything.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … Master crash, I have both a twitter and a google account. But id rather just create a mal account, that way I don't have to decide. If only they weren't such stuck up jerks about the password. Heaven forbid someone hacks my list of favorite anime!!
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … password: myanimelistsuc "This password is acceptable". Password: myanimelistsucks "Please enter a longer, more complex password". My god. The password checker hates me.
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Saved!MarconeAnteliusEditing … The password is PASSWORD
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Saved!Silent GamerEditing … ^ Mines is WORDPASS ;) It's super secure.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … okay I finally made a password. It was going to be animeanimeanimeanimeanime. But I decided to use a different word. Anyway the site is garbage. My profile page is just a bunch of graphs. To actually see what anime I've seen you have to press anime and even then nothing is displayed because it shows currently watching by default, not completed. (there's also an 'all' option, why isn't THAT the default??)
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Saved!DoubleagentEditing … Jesus rockshard I can only imagine what it's like when you try and do something that is actually hard.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … The site is pointless is what I'm saying. I could have just punched the anime I've seen into a forum post or pastebin. The site was supposed to make it into something more presentable but it fails pretty hard. There's no way to even remove the ratings. If you don't rate an anime the rating is still displayed but it's a 0. Even if I write my own comment, it doesn't show. The site is even worse than favslist. But that's good too I guess, since it lets us appreciate favslist more and helps remind us that there are sites much worse than it. Sites like myanimelist. Lol oh man how did MAL gain so much traction I have no idea.
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Saved!DoubleagentEditing … "Just use pastebin" is basically the equivalent of saying; "Whats the point of a tractor when I can just till my 100 acres of land by hand?" It's quite clearly more convenient. Like many other applications / websites there is a settings page where you can basically change everything that you mentioned. You also can't even rate things as 0 you can only rate them 1-10 or "-". I work tech support and talk to people like this all day, "I've spent 0.2 seconds looking at the page after the login screen and I just can't figure anything out! This is useless!." Take some initiative, it's basically the millennial equivalent of not knowing how to use a TV remote.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … You can't rate things a 0, but it shows a star icon with a 0 next to it, so it looks exactly as though I rated it a 0.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … MAL is clearly less convenient than just making a text, writing it down, or even simply remembering what anime you've seen. (is it really that hard?) From my perspective, the point of MAL isn't convenience, its to make a show of things. The function of the site is purely cosmetic.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … Apparently the mobile and desktop versions of MAL work differently. The mobile site defers to "watching" even though the list settings are on "all" by default. It's like the mobile site ignores your settings altogether.
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Saved!DoubleagentEditing … I've watched over 400 anime, I'm watching 13 series at the same time right now and have another 13 on hold for later. No, I can't remember all the episode numbers off the top of my head. Does a plaintext list have subtitle reviews? No. Show review system? Related shows? genre stats? user score comparison? automatic watch tracking via app? producer/staff/VA lookup? automatic sequel notification? No. Literally anything other than "It's a list" is not provided by a plaintext list. Good luck getting any detailed stats from a self constructed plaintext list without basically manually importing all the details of a show each time. Having watched something and wanting to watch something by the same studio/that has the same VA/producer is basically one click away. I can read spoiler free descriptions of shows and see how people who liked similar things to me liked the show. There are just so many advantages I don't see the point in listing any more. On the forums a few days ago I sent Silent my list ordered by score. It took about 5 seconds and I'm sure anyone would attest to that being more useful than an unstructured plaintext file. The layout of the list is quite intuitive. I used to track my stuff manually in a spreadsheet and it was a ballache, MAL reduced that to 'click one and sometimes two buttons'. The mobile site is new / beta as far as I am aware. I don't use it.
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Saved!MasterCrashEditing … "To actually see what anime I've seen you have to press anime and even then nothing is displayed because it shows currently watching by default, not completed. (there's also an 'all' option, why isn't THAT the default??)" This can be changed. My default is completed. "Even if I write my own comment, it doesn't show." Definitions. "You can't rate things a 0, but it shows a star icon with a 0 next to it, so it looks exactly as though I rated it a 0." I have no idea what you're talking about here. I had to look hard around MAL to see if I could find someone using the pre-set skin and hadn't rate anything and I still see a "-" in there.
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Saved!MasterCrashEditing … The greatest thing in my opinion about MAL (and, apart from the community, I'd say I like MAL a bit more than Favslist, tbh) is the customization, you can change your lists how you want and it's really not that hard, you just have to want it. There's also user-made lists that are overly costumized, which is what I'm using. Those sometimes bug, but besides that, even the standard one gives you a lot of choice in the information you want to be presented and how you want to be presented. If you want you can remove the scores from the list, maybe make space for your comments. Here, here's my manga list: https://myanimelist.net/mangalist/CrashRHCP? and here's my anime list: https://myanimelist.net/animelist/CrashRHCP? even those two are heavily different. (Although both Steins;Gate themed)
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Saved!MasterCrashEditing … Another great thing is the wikia, which has all the information you need PLUS recommendations of similar anime/manga too. You can find anime by the same studio, manga by the same artist (as well as what anime they collaborated with) and even by the same magazine. There's the groups as well, which is pretty good, and the fact that there's personal forums for all anime/manga as well as all groups, for organized discussions.
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Saved!MasterCrashEditing … I've been using this site since 2009, it's one of the first websites I used, actually, and I can tell you there's a lot more to MAL than what you just see at first glance. Now, sure, you just need to have more will to move around than your normal rock.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … "Does a plaintext list have subtitle reviews?" "Show review system?" A plaintext list has whatever you want. Also my MAL doesn't display my comments anyway, at least not on mobile. Maybe on desktop if I fiddle with the settings enough. And a plaintext lets you edit all your comments at once. I thought of a fix for my MAL list, which is to list all my anime as watching instead of completed. Great idea until I realized I'd have to change each and every anime from "completed" to "watching" one at a time. And I'd have to do it all over again if I change my mind or in the unlikely case that MAL fixes their shit. "automatic watch tracking via app" wat? "On the forums a few days ago I sent Silent my list ordered by score. It took about 5 seconds and I'm sure anyone would attest to that being more useful than an unstructured plaintext file." In the time it took to create a MAL list and rate each anime you could have done the exact same thing in plain text. You generally have to type the name of each anime anyway in order to add it to your MAL. :p
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … Master Crash - I'm a new account so my default is all, but the mobile site ignores that and shows watching, not all. The 0 star ratings are a likewise specific to the mobile site. EDIT: Interesting, I can get it to show all my anime/manga by shortening the URL. For some reason the default link from my profile adds at a tag at the end that takes me to watching, removing it takes me to all.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … Deleted by himself
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Saved!MasterCrashEditing … "the time it took to create a MAL list and rate each anime you could have done the exact same thing in plain text." Sure, but you can't as easily change the order of list by score or alphabetical or by episode number, for example. Also, I went and checked the app. Yeah, you're right... just use the computer like a real person.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … "Sure, but you can't as easily change the order of list by score or alphabetical or by episode number, for example." True, but on the flipside you can change your scores much more easily. You guys mention community. What community? How do you interact with a community by making a list in a vacuum and adding ratings to it? I'm guessing there's a forum or something you're holding out on, making MAL just like many other sites (favslist included) that have a forum but in which the site's so called primary function is hopelessly redundant or very poorly implemented. P.s. I didn't download the app, I simply opened the link silent gamer posted. And I use a computer, it happens to be a phone, and it can access the desktop version of MAL just fine. The link took me to the mobile version by default though. Much respect to MAL for including a mobile site as an afterthought.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … "you can change your lists how you want and it's really not that hard, you just have to want it." The same would be true if the site made you use a telegraph machine.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … The hours I would invariably spend using MAL to update the no. of episodes I've seen in a series every time I've finished watching an episode, or moving anime from "watching" to "completed", is time that could be spent watching more anime.
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Saved!DoubleagentEditing … Yes, the hopelessly redundant feature that is one click away from every other page on the website and integrated with everything else. Are you really over 30 years old or is your birthday a lie? I'm legitimately curious on how you get through daily life if you are not still at school. I don't think I've actually seen you make a single sensible statement ever.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … I gave MAL another chance just now. The site is even worse than I thought. "All anime" doesn't even display your favorite anime!! Meaning if you have favorites you have to add them again to watching/completed. Likewise if you have watching/completed anime and rate it a 10 it doesn't show up in your favorite anime. You have to add that shit TWICE. Also, the mobile site doesn't even display favorites. Also, there is no way to change the order if your favorites list on a touchscreen device, not even if you use the desktop site. Because the only way to move them is to click and drag. This is favslist all over again!
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … "integrated with everything else." Define integrated?? Because its like oh you can rate each anime an oyster, a pizza, or a kazoo and the site tallies up all the votes. Yes!! What organization!! I really feel like I'm part of a worldwide anime community by submitting arbitrary ratings into a void. Maybe my opinion will have a 0.0001% chance of affecting somene. "hi I'm a complete idiot, so I will use this MAL site to decide what anime to watch next. Hey this anime was rated 8.2. If it was rated 8.1 then I wouldn't bother watching it but that last guy's vote totally tipped the scales."
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … So anyway since I'm on a touch screen I can't use the favorites feature (which was kinda neat since it actually appeared on your main profile) and must instead use the more laborious process of marking anime as watching/completed. But there's no way to show which anime I liked except by rating it, so question is do I rate everything a 10 and just not bother listing anime I didn't like, or do I list everything and just give them lower ratings, and set my list to sort by score by default like you did? But if I did that then it essentially becomes a favslist list except that in order to change the order of two anime I'd have to change the score of one of the anime and then change the score of the other one. I can already see where this is going. What a failed culture.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … Yeah maybe I'm just too lazy. I'm so lazy that I get bored and fed up using MAL and decide to watch anime instead. Some anime fan I turned out to be, right??
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Saved!DoubleagentEditing … I'm just going to let most the above speak for itself. I'm sure everyone can come to an appropriate conclusion. These are very simple concepts that you clearly don't understand or at the very least consider yourself above for some reason. You are looking at things that are fundamentally different and trying to make them the same just because they share some minor function. It would be like saying a hand warmer and a flamethrower were the same because they both involved heat or that a hammer and screwdriver served the same function because they are both tools. You have clearly missed the point of what this website is actually for and I'm quite confident that it's as plain as day for the majority of people reading this thread. I'm sure the hundreds of thousands of users of MAL have specifically gone out of their way to make their lives more inconvenient and that you are much smarter than all of them with your fresh and unique viewpoint of what site features should be used for as opposed to what they were designed for. Well done.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … "These are very simple concepts that you clearly don't understand or at the very least consider yourself above for some reason." Look who's talking. "You are looking at things that are fundamentally different and trying to make them the same just because they share some minor function." You must be on some good shit if you think giving something the highest possible score is **FUNDAMENTALLY** different from setting it as your favorite. Why the heck does MAL even have a 10 point rating system if not even the difference between a 9 and 10 means anything? I have no reason not to jist rate everything 10 since i have to manually set my favorites anyway. Wouldn't it make more sense of favorites displayed your highest rated anime, thereby challenging me to rate certain anime less? You get what I'm saying, right? Nah who am I kidding, you probably don't. "You have clearly missed the point of what this website is actually for" No i think i got it, it's a site for morons to spend all their time rating anime and managing their MAL profile. But does the site creator know that? Probably not seeing as unfunctional the mobile site is or the fact the site seriously uses a 10 point rating system. The site is a waste product of human stupidity, nerd culture, and epidemic ocd. Am I saying I'm smarter than the hundreds of MAL users? No, I'm saying that none of them will be using MAL forever. In the meantime however ill do them a service and not use MAL (which is unusable to me anyway) to avoid the potential risk of skewing the scores, recommendations features, and such. Those things would be less accurate if too many non-moronic people's opinions were added into the mix.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … Now prepare to have your mind blown. Go to a website called tappedout, register an account (don't worry, you don't need a 15 character password unlike MAL) and create a new deck. It lets you add one card at a time just like MAL but everything is added to a single paste and the site generates your list page from that, meaning that conceivably you can write up or edit the whole paste at once instead of refreshing/loading a page for every single edit like you would have to for sites like MAL and backloggery. This is how the entire internet should work. EDIT: Tappedout even leys you change the quantity of each card right when viewing the deck. Imagine if rating anime worked this way...
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Saved!DoubleagentEditing … lol. The only thing blowing my mind is how off the mark you are. Also, MAL hilariously has a list import/export feature just to hammer home the earlier point. You are free to continue digging an intellectual hole for yourself if you wish.
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Saved!MasterCrashEditing … Dude, you want a notepad, you PC should come with one. Don't use MAL ever again. I don't care. I'll use it. I've been using it for 7 years and I never had problems or felt inconvenient about any of your problems, mostly because I'm a functioning human being who only purpose in life isn't constantly focusing on things to complain and feel worse. Also: " I really feel like I'm part of a worldwide anime community by submitting arbitrary ratings into a void. Maybe my opinion will have a 0.0001% chance of affecting someone." The worldwide anime (or gaming) community doesn't really care about you, not in general. A couple people might, Hell, I do, I don't even know why, otherwise I wouldn't be replying, but 99.9999% doesn't. EITHER way, there's a lot of ways you can affect someone in MAL, and it's not with the rating system. There's the forums, the clubs, the reviews and recommendations, all features I used to pick more manga to read. There's also the fantastic event every Christmas where you get a secret Santa who recommends you something based on your MAL and a list of specified parameters you have to fill to enter (fav genres, manga or anime, max num of chapters, etc...). All things that enhance the MAL experience further than just "a list site" but I assume you'll dislike all of those, because they aren't a notepad.
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … "how can rockshard be older than me and not like MAL??" "how can my parents be older than me and not like Justin Beiber??"
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Saved!rockshard PhDEditing … Honest question to all MAL users. Lets say I hypothetically I watched 150 anime and I join MAL and add them all. (one at a time, like a complete tool) and rate each one. Now lets say I rate 30 of them a 9/10 and later I decide to change the rating to all of those to 10/10. (or vice versa, they started out 10/10 and I want to make them 9/10) What would be the quick way to do that?
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