• 1 year ago
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    Isabella was poorly last night, we rang a doctor and the next available appointment is 3 weeks on September 8th.

    Ladies and gentlemen, this is the NHS. All you Yanks really don't want this shit, trust me.
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      Editing … NHS in UK is a non-working compromise, the aquired money for it seem to end up somewere else.
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    • Nodley
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      Editing … 13% of our income (and everybody elses) pay's for this SHIT we have to deal with. It's time for private healthcare like the Yanks, I'll actually get a service for my money then instead of paying for nothing. I pay well over £6k a year plus whatever Claire pays, our household alone pays half the wage of a nurse for a year.
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      Editing … Wait no option of leaving healthcare for a private one? In Germany national healthcare is also mandatory (~9%), but with surpassing a defined income value over two years you are allowed to switch to a private one, cancel your decision also possible for a while.
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    • Nodley
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      Editing … No we have to pay 13.25% of everything we earn before tax. If we want private healthcare we pay for this after we paid for the NHS.
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      Editing … Such case is quite common in Germany as well. Additional healthcare, and a bunch of other insurancies thinking they get payed taxes back this way.
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    • Nodley
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      Editing … You know, I'm starting to think that the common man is being controlled. Maybe my conspiracy theory nuts brother is actually right. Nobody really voted or wants this shit right?
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      Editing … This system is made to help the common man. Here Bismarck decided to add this to make the working class loyal to monarchy. Overall system still runs fine, but original loyality goal failed pretty much.
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      Editing … It seems like our system is just a tax collection service. We don't actually get what we want or need. Our ambulances that pick up heart attack victims etc can be waiting outside a hospital for up to 23 hours just to get in: https://inews.co.uk/news/health/record-breaking-ambulance-waiting-times-could-be-significantly-worse-in-winter-chiefs-warn-1799099
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      Editing … I get the impression significant parts of nhs finances get relocated to other budgets. Why denying basics to people then getting ill, what is considered more important? The missing billions must be somethere to fix something else. In Germany military has the fate of nhs, it is a joke beeing decently financed in theory but overall everything is lacking even clothing and handguns only bureaucracy all over place.
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  • 5 years ago
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    My wife's friend rushed her 3 month old baby to hospital over the weekend. There was no doctor available to see him, they were all too busy.

    He then died of meningitis.

    Why do the rest of the world look at the NHS with envy? It's a pile of fucking shit.
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      Editing … They talk about Canada's wonderful system but leave out the parts when Canadians sometimes come down here to have life threatening surgery or have a threatening illness. Similar to what you just described.
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      Editing … Then people want to bring lots of immigrants in to gum up the system even more.
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      Editing … Apparently the NHS is ranked 30th out of 140 something comparable countries. That's not world leading, not even close! I'd happily pay health insurance for a good service.
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      Editing … So how did that thing with Claire's friend go down? Did they turn her away and say come back later or did they take the baby in?
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      Editing … All I was told was what I typed. It'll be in the papers very soon so I'll post the links.
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  • 5 years ago
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    So, I pay 12% out of my wages for this service, but then I have to pay for medicines too, and I even got charged for an ambulance when I had a motorbike accident. We even have to pay again when we go to the dentist.

    Plus it takes years to actually get seen unless you're on death's door.

    Scrap this shite and let's get private medical insurance instead.
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      Editing … With what I earned last year I paid £2600 out my wages so foreigners and lazy cunts that don't work can get free treatment.
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      Editing … Indeed, this is how a social system works.
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      Editing … It's not fair for hard working people.
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      Editing … It is, as these hard working people were unemployed before. But yeah such system can become unfair due fuckups called exceptions.
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      Editing … A couple of years ago I almost died twice, I had two anaphylactic shocks and was rushed to hospital. They said I was allergic to something but they didn't know what. Did they try to find out what it was? Did they fuck. Did I even get an epi pen to save my life in case it happened again? Did I fuck. I got put on a waiting list that took over a year to see a specialist, and all that specialist did was tell me it's plant proteins but she wasn't sure which ones, and gave me a prescription for an epi pen that I had to pay £20 for. If I went private I would get the best treatment and get it today.
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      Editing … I'll tell you another story now. 21 years ago I fell off a motorbike and seperated my shoulder. I had NHS physio many times, the first time they didn't even recognise my shoulder was injured!! After 20 years I got so fed up that I went and paid privately to see a guy. He said try growth hormone injections as well as some physio he showed me, it cost me over £500 for the growth hormones and whatever his fee was. Within 3 months my shoulder was better than it'd ever been in my adult life, it's still not 100%, that will require surgery, but it's manageable now. The NHS is fucking wank.
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      Editing … This sucks, heard of ridiculous long waiting times in british healthcare. But this is worse, how can a system screwed up so badly. Do not understand why it does not get fixed in all these years. Looks like epic fail for the goverment...
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      Editing … There are tons of reasons. Foreigners can come use it for free. It's ran by the government so 80 hour weeks are standard. It's ran by the government so junior doctors wages are pitiful.All our good doctors go abroad to double or their earnings. The country is overcrowded and we don't have the infrastructure in place for everybody. We have an influx of a quarter of a million immigrants a year that come to live permanantly but never contributed into the system before. I could go on and on.
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      Editing … Germany has more immigrants and foreigners taking advantage of our social system, so this alone can not be the reason. The doctors leaving issue should be scary indeed, as US is the obvious choice alone due the same spoken language. Good doctors in germany leave also, but hospitals hire cheaper foreigner then. My hometown owns a hospital which make profits (worked for it for three months during my rehab in 2016), as it is selfgoverment and expanding. Other one is more or less owned by the catholic church and also expanding as small are closing.
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      Editing … Germany's economy is bigger than ours though. We need to put fat and sugar taxes on unhealthy foods and drinks, and give healthy foods a small tax break. Eventually that will ease the burden on the NHS and in the meantime the taxes raised will help. Smoking too, it should be £100 a packet, price it out of everybody's price range. Or if it was me in government I'd say anybody 15 years old or younger will not get free healthcare for lung cancer or other illnesses caused by smoking. Do it, and it's your funeral. The taxpayer shouldn't have to pay for your stupidity. Then in 30 years time it will be much better.
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  • 10 years ago
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    The NHS wont be around for much longer the way this country is going. Foreigners come here for NHS "holidays". They come get expensive operations and treatment then go home and we foot the bill.
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