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  • 1 year ago
    E3 Press Conference
    Speaker: Bethesda.
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  • 2 years ago
    what a fuckin loser
    tl;dr bethesda are still assholes

    It looks like one publisher, Bethesda Softworks, may be seeking to rein in sales of secondhand games online. Bethesda recently sent out a notice to at least one seller on Amazon’s Marketplace who was trying to sell a sealed copy of The Evil Within 2 as new, demanding that they remove their listing. That letter included a phone number for sellers of Bethesda’s games to call, suggesting that the company is sending out such notices to multiple sellers.

    Philadelphia-based Ryan Hupp recently contacted Polygon to explain how he’d been forced by Bethesda to stop selling his copy of The Evil Within 2. He bought the game but never unwrapped it, he told us. He’d been expecting to purchase a PlayStation 4, but instead spent his money upgrading a gaming PC. Hupp said he often sells used goods through Amazon Marketplace, which works in much the same way as other online trading sites, such as eBay.

    Bethesda’s legal firm Vorys sent Hupp a letter, which he forwarded to Polygon, warning that the game must be taken down and threatening legal action for non-compliance. In its letter, Vorys made the argument that Hupp’s sale was not “by an authorized reseller,” and was therefore “unlawful.” Bethesda also took issue with Hupp’s use of the word “new” in selling the unwrapped game, claiming that this constituted “false advertising.”

    Hupp complied with the demand, but in a reply to Vorys, he pointed out that the resale of used copyrighted goods — such as books, video games, DVDs — is protected in U.S. law through the First Sale Doctrine. This allows consumers to sell a game, so long as it’s not significantly altered from its original form.

    Bethesda’s letter claims that Hupp’s sale is not protected by the First Sale Doctrine, because he is not selling the game in its original form, which would include a warranty. The letter says this lack of warranty renders the game “materially different from genuine products” that are sold through official channels. In theory, this argument could be used against anyone who sells a game without specific permission from Bethesda.

    “Unless you remove all Bethesda products, from your storefront, stop selling any and all Bethesda products immediately and identify all sources of Bethesda products you are selling, we intend to file a lawsuit against you,” the letter reads. It goes on to state that a lawsuit would seek “disgorgement of profits, compensatory damages, attorneys’ fees and investigative and other costs.”
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  • 2 years ago
    very good e3 you earned a cookie or somethin
    Rage 2 honestly lost some interest from me
    Fallout 76 gained a lot of interest
    now we gotta wait until the next gen to play The Elder Scrolls VI and wtf Starfield how the fuck is that real
    that game was "leaked" on 4chan over a year ago as a game meant to connect Fallout and The Elder Scrolls it can't be fucking REAL what the fuck
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    • Travis Green
      Travis Green
      Editing … I'm the exact opposite: Rage 2 actually got me somewhat hyped, but Fallout 76 almost completely lost me. If the PVP is unavoidable, I think I'm out. Even if I can play entirely solo, it clearly isn't the focus, so I think it looks like a hard pass, for me.
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    • Husky Wing
      Husky Wing
      Editing … You could probably play co-op only. I'll be spending most of my time alone lmao
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    • DJ_JJSlider
      Editing … Fallout 76 sort of lost me too, but it's probably less chaotic than Destiny. I got a headache trying to fight off people on each planet.
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  • 2 years ago
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  • 3 years ago
    That was actually a really bad conference, Bethesda. Not a single new game that wasn't already leaked or announced. Oh, and paid mods. That was a really shitty conference, Bethesda.
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  • 3 years ago
    Bethesda uses E3 to announce paid mods.
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  • 4 years ago
    Pete Hines sounds nervous.
    Should I have bullied him so much about Prey 2?
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  • 4 years ago
    I like this girl in the pre-show discussion. She's fun.
    And she's cute >w<
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  • 4 years ago
    Bethesda support made someone smash his limited edition Fallout 3 records to get a full refund
    Well okay, it's ThinkGeek's support (who run Bethesda's merch store)
    but fuck you bethesda I want Prey 2
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  • 5 years ago
    With E3 almost upon us...
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