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    Hope you saved enough money with your tax schemes you bastard because you are now unemployed.
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      Editing … So much hatred, swears and threats won't help a positive change. The U.K will have to stay strong and united now and with a 52% win, it goes without saying that it'll be tough. Courage and good luck.
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      Editing … He's related to the Queen and his family have being mega rich going back centuries, he'll not be signing on the dole down the jobcentre anytime soon.
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      Editing … @Sha Ember I don't feel strongly about the Brexit in any way, I think it has some upsides, but it might not work out as well as Brits hope. But I'm glad to see David "tax evader" Cameron step down. I have never liked him, he is a bit of a weasel. And Nod, I know, I'm just pretty thrilled to see him actually gone. I might have understated my dislike of him.
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      Editing … I understand, but you know how unproductive it is to throw words out like "bastard". I haven't heard much good of him since quite some time, but it's not a reason to devalue the man himself.
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      Editing … He devalued himself with his lies and corruption.
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      Editing … Hopefully soon we will get to hear all about how he was really involved in the phone tapping scandal, his government covered that up so not to cause a huge scandal. It doesn't matter now, we can know the truth! I doubt he'll go to jail though, he's too rich for jail.
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      Editing … Things are not as simple as black and white, even less with the media. I'm not trying to justify his actions, if he actually did something reprehensible, but I can't stand people judging and sentencing without restraint from having endured it. Grey is the human color, as it alternatively symbolizes despair and hope and asks ourselves what could help us evolve without erasing what we learned. That's what David Cameron stated first, and it was clever and sensible. As for the Europe, personally, it morally teached me to bond with the unknown, to face new boundaries and to live in a bigger world. I can understand that the proclamation was politically constraining, but we shouldn't cut our nexus but instead spread it globally and give it a new meaning and purpose. Paradoxically, Peace is established by small fights, and avoiding a defeat is not the same as winning the war. It may be a victory for 52%, but as the grey implies, to come back on the former path is also to accept a crushing defeat. I won't be favorable to the discontinuation of the Europe, but I hope we'll all ask our governments for better international stakes and business purposes, and above all, a post-conflict reconstruction. Because that's what civilized people need to do in cases of divorce or separation.
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      Editing … I'm tired of living in the bigger world though Sha. All I've done is give, give, give for 37 years. You'd think these people would be grateful wouldn't you? Nope, they are so greedy they wouldn't give Britain ANYTHING back in return. They wanted to continue taking. That's not fair, we've given to the point that we can't give more without serious consequences. They were happy to watch us do a Greece or Portugal. I hope you guys get out too, for the sake of your own economy. #Frexit
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      Editing … Look at this list of richest European countries(The number is position in the world): 5. Germany: $3.935 trillion (up 2.5%) 6. Russia: $3.685 trillion (down -0.9%) 9. United Kingdom: $2.757 trillion (up 2.9%) 10. France: $2.703 trillion (up 2.1%) 12. Italy: $2.213 trillion (up 1.9%) 15. Spain: $1.674 trillion (up 3.6%) 17. Turkey: $1.665 trillion (up 4.8%) 24. Poland: $1.052 trillion (up 4.6%) 28. Netherlands: $856.3 billion (up 2.8%) 37. Belgium: $504.8 billion (up 2.2%) 39. Switzerland: $493.1 billion (up 2.2%) Poland is the 24th richest in the world and 8th richest in Europe, why are they still taking and not giving?
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      Editing … @Sha Ember as I said, I'm not overly interested in the Brexit, it's hard to say it's long lasting effects. What I do like is this corrupt, lying, politician who has exploited the system for his own personal gain losing his job. And when I lived in Britain, I paid taxes. I paid a lot of taxes. And now that I'm in Finland, I've paid a mansion worth of money in taxes, so I have little sympathy for a man who has worked a well paying job and who still uses these petty schemes just to make a few extra quid on top of his around 50 million net worth. I think that when you are the prime minister and cheat money from your own country whilst preaching about how everyone has to live tightly and pay all of their taxes, even if they struggle to do it, then you are a bastard. That's just how I see it. A lying, deceitful bastard. I'm not saying that he is rotten to the bone and that he hasn't done any good or that he doesn't have any good ideas because that's not true, but he is a bastard for what he did.
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      Editing … Also Sha, I don't think that me calling him a bastard really changes the grand scheme of things. If I was to give a press statement about him, I would of course not use language that strong, but when I'm talking to my friends on Favslist, I think that bastad is more than appropriate. Other possible synonyms are cunt, pigfucker etc.
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      Editing … I'm not driven by money, it's a lust I can't afford. Yet, I don't complain, and instead, I'm even trying to argue and ask for solutions. You're older Nod, I know that, and you gave for 37 years until giving up. First things first, I don't need anything else than happiness and that may be why I don't really care about politics and even more about politicians, as long as there's a progress in the "Acceptance" box. I don't need more than any other, I'm not fond of luxury and greed, and I'm old enough to understand that equality is a utopianism. Unfortunately, people invented small coins and started trading them, and that's why, like everyone, I need to work to afford my sandwich, biggest injustice made in the Earth. Europe wasn't involved in this crime, it's not a pretext to steal money directly from the pockets we call banks, it's actually a term to designate the "Old Continent" and the "New World", it shouldn't even be fixed and stationary because the world changes everyday. Politics filled the global grey sphere with both good and bad things, often in the form of bank notes in it. It doesn't mean we should break the sphere and share the money, because the money was magically drained and we all know it. But this sphere is Europe, and Europe is a strong message to bring people together, even tainted by political interests.
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      Editing … And Not Important, I'm guilty of having laughed. ^^ I understand what you mean, but you won't make me judge a book by its cover.
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      Editing … I'm not driven by money either, I like time off rather than overtime. I do care however that schools are failing, the NHS is failing, our prisons are overcrowded and police underfunded, our roads are full of holes, our pensioners are freezing to death because they can't afford to turn the heating on, and worst of all: 25% of all children in the UK live in poverty! The EU won't have told you that will they? https://www.barnardos.org.uk/what_we_do/our_work/child_poverty/child_poverty_what_is_poverty/child_poverty_statistics_facts.htm
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      Editing … And your solution is to throw the migrant children out of your country so they can never go to school? To cut their rights to the NHS? To bring your surplus of prisoners in other countries or instead of a solution, bring them back to their freedom? Because Nod, your country will take an undetermined amount of time to recover from the crisis, much more than if you've had taken into account an alternative solution. Your roads are full of holes, but where do you find your raw materials? Your pensioners are freezing to death but who sells you your commercial and industrial establishments? You live on an island, the Europe was meant to bring countries such as yours closer to the big continent. As for the children, does it take into account all those children you'll throw out? I don't want to judge because I'm only 24 and I don't know all the ins and outs, it's just second guessing.
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      Editing … We're not throwing out any children, you have listened to some propaganda somewhere. We're stopping migrants coming in that can't work and pay taxes. We're going to pick who we need, such as doctors and other skilled people and keep out the unskilled that offer nothing. Our market is so strong everybody wants to trade with us, everybody wants our products. And we buy so many cars Germany will be screwed without us so expect a deal soon. We are now FREE to trade with the rest of the world, to ANY country we choose! We will have untold amounts of agreements in place before our 2 year leaving process is even complete.
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      Editing … Asking for a visa and regulate is what I call throwing out, and I wish you the best of luck for the years to come. I'm not wise enough to know if it was the right decision, but it brings a whole lot of changes and there are good and bad sides to everything. I would have loved to spend some time in the U.K., and even move in in a year or two, but I take pills and now that you're out of the Europe, I suppose the tickets cost will rise which may be an obstacle for the tourist economy. Two new reasons I have to consider. I hope you won't be disillusioned by your choice, and that you won't see the forest for the trees. Thanks for the conversation anyway, we wouldn't move forward without any language. :)
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      Editing … Nobody will be asking anybody for a visa, foreign children already here will be able to live here just like the rest of us. But we're going to stop more from entering until we have things back in control of the economy. There is nothing stopping you coming to visit the UK either, we're still part of the EU for the next two years and you can still travel here exactly like I can travel to all the other countries I've been to outside the EU, Tunisia and Egypt were the last, it was easy, no visa required. Ticket costs won't change, tourism is a huge part of Europes economy, nobody will stop tourists visiting, tourism is vital to many countries economies. I don't know how much Brits spend each year travelling to other countries but I expect it to be in the billions, it's just going to mean a few minutes longer to get through security at the airports. In the short term, nothing will change, in 2 years once we leave deals will already be in place and some minor things will happen. I expect to carry on as usual for the next five years then we will start to see big improvements in our economy.
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      Editing … The big changes will probably be in the rest of Europe, you're all going to struggle now, I just hope you're all not bitter that we jumped the sinking ship, it's in both our interests to still trade together.
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      Editing … I guess we'll see, at least you're confident. ^^ And don't worry for us, we on the bigger continent don't actually need ships to trade and travel to plenty of other countries. ;)
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      Editing … Oh, I'm sure 20 miles of water isn't too hard to get across. Don't forget you need to cross it too to trade with us, and how many French cars exactly do we buy ;)
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      Editing … "The majority of the UK’s motor vehicle imports are from the EU, consistently accounting for over 85% of total motor vehicle imports each year since 1998. Imports from the EU have grown from £14.3 billion to £31.3 billion between 1998 and 2014," Think you guys are gonna cut your losses on over 30 billion? Not a chance! Face it, you need us badly. If we buy British cars your economy will crash, your unemployment will go through the roof.
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      Editing … Also Sha, the UK is the second biggest importer of French wine. Do you think you'll stop that too? What about French perfumes and cosmetics too? They must be billion dollar exports to the UK. You need us far more than we need you.
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      Editing … xD. You're funny Nod, I never said we didn't need you, you don't need to justify. I just said it might change the way we all trade our products and see your country.
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      Editing … Nothing is going to change because we all need each other. We in the UK just now make our own laws and trade agreements, we're not bound by a one size fits all agreement. I expect life to just continue for us. We're now free to trade with the US so if Europe dies we'll already be exporting our products, it's safer for us to stand alone because we are very strong in the markets.
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      Editing … In fact us leaving might actually be beneficial for you guys. When Europe struggles your products will go down in price and we will buy more. The real losers will be the poor countries again.
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