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    It was definitely at the eye of the sahara.

    https://youtu.be/xo_fMcSLp7Q
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      Editing … Oh I know this theory. I thought it was cool a while back and more appealing than most other theories but I have to admit it does not really fit the bill for a true Atlantis. I hope somewhere in the secret treasury of the Vatican in a drawer somewhere where they keep all the confiscated penises there is also a secret map to Atlantis.
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      Editing … Watch the video I think it's the place.
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      Editing … I did watch it and I know this theory in and out and I still have to disagree. Plato clearly states Atlantis is supposed to be in the Atlantic ocean past the Strait of Gibraltar and there are supposed to be many more islands near it. This does not fit that discription no mater how hard the guy tries to bend his arguments of placement. :-P I would love it if this was Atlantis but I just don't think it fits well enough. In the end it could turn out to be just a story so unless it fits 100% I won't be convinced.
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      Editing … But the evidence proves salt water was there 12000 years ago
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      Editing … That is just evidence that there was sea water, not that it was Atlantis.
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      Editing … Ah, but it was in the sea once past the straits of Gibraltar.
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      Editing … If it were to have actually been underwater and sailable then you'd still have to turn around the corner back in the direction you came. You make a damn u turn lol. Also Where are the other islands?
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      Editing … The other islands are clearly the Canary Islands.
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      Editing … Those are not near enough. If you find Atlantian artefacts and currency there I'll be more convinced.
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      Editing … Not near enough? The ancient world wasn't smaller than it is now. The artifacts will be in the slide he mentions so until somebody scans it we just have to wait and see.
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      Editing … Look on a map, the Canary islands are closer than sardinia is to Italy.
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      Editing … yes it is close but not so close as to see them as the same group. It makes no sense to connect them to eachother.
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      Editing … Does Plato say they are the same group though or just nearby? If you come out the gibraltar straits and follow the coast you would see the canaries on your right and atlantis on your left. It lines up perfectly. I think if Atlantis did exist then this is the place, al the clues left behind fit..
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      Editing … *Quick view into muted video* Wow, stay away from drugs before coming up with such theories. Last time when nordafrica was cut by a sea like that dinosaurs were walking on earth!
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      Editing … This is from Plato: "For it is related in our records how once upon a time your State stayed the course of a mighty host, which, starting from a distant point in the Atlantic ocean, was insolently advancing to attack the whole of Europe, and Asia to boot. For the ocean there was at that time navigable; for in front of the mouth which you Greeks call, as you say, 'the pillars of Heracles,' there lay an island which was larger than Libya and Asia together; and it was possible for the travelers of that time to cross from it to the other islands, and from the islands to the whole of the continent over against them which encompasses that veritable ocean. For all that we have here, lying within the mouth of which we speak, is evidently a haven having a narrow entrance; but that yonder is a real ocean, and the land surrounding it may most rightly be called, in the fullest and truest sense, a continent. Now in this island of Atlantis there existed a confederation of kings, of great and marvelous power, which held sway over all the island, and over many other islands also and parts of the continent."-------------" But afterwards there occurred violent earthquakes and floods; and in a single day and night of misfortune all your warlike men in a body sank into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared in the depths of the sea. For which reason the sea in those parts is impassable and impenetrable, because there is a shoal of mud in the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island"
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      Editing … "This is from Plato: "For it is related in our records how once upon a time your State stayed the course of a mighty host, which, starting from a distant point in the Atlantic ocean, was insolently advancing to attack the whole of Europe, and Asia to boot. For the ocean there was at that time navigable; for in front of the mouth which you Greeks call, as you say, 'the pillars of Heracles,' there lay an island which was larger than Libya and Asia together; and it was possible for the travelers of that time to cross from it to the other islands, and from the islands to the whole of the continent over against them which encompasses that veritable ocean. For all that we have here, lying within the mouth of which we speak, is evidently a haven having a narrow entrance; but that yonder is a real ocean, and the land surrounding it may most rightly be called, in the fullest and truest sense, a continent. Now in this island of Atlantis there existed a confederation of kings, of great and marvelous power, which held sway over all the island, and over many other islands also and parts of the continent."-------------" But afterwards there occurred violent earthquakes and floods; and in a single day and night of misfortune all your warlike men in a body sank into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared in the depths of the sea. For which reason the sea in those parts is impassable and impenetrable, because there is a shoal of mud in the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island" Yeah that is exactly right if it were the eye of the sahara! It's proven to have been under water and now isn't. The sahara didn't dry up overnight it would have taken time to evaporate once cut off.
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      Editing … Seriously, I think civilisation is way older than the history books say it is and we just don't know because the world has changed so much over the millenia. There are dozens of underwater cities all over the world that once stood on land. They're not in the history books either but we know they're there because we found them. Imagine what an ice age would do to civilsation even today, and global warming is gonna sink all the coastal cities too.
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      Editing … Not necessarily under water, in amazonia basin a super-civilisation is assumed to be existent around 8000BC! In the andean area "ancient" stone buildings were existent then inca were conquered by the spanish. Thousands of artifical islands in the bassin are assumed like the origin of the terra preta also a estimated population of 50 to 80 million, or the origin is from severall cultures. Earlier civs (before last iceage) are pretty unlikely as humans were to few and sparsed over the planet, Toba super eruption (74k ago) almost made Homo Sapiens went instinct, as over 80%(!) of the modern population is linked to five women ~72k ago located in arabia.
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      Editing … Yeah but why are we all linked to a place near the equator? It's the warmest place in an ice age. Anything north or south got drleted. Humans are no smarter now than the first found fossils, you could even teach a neanderthal to fly a plane, our brains have being like they are now for hundreds of thousands of years possibly. I'm not saying we had advanced technology and laser guns and shit in Atlantis, I'm just saying I believe civilisation is far older than we currently accept mainstream. We got ruins in turkey that are around the same time Atlantis was supposed to be around. I really think it was a true place that got lost in time like so many others as the earth cycles. 12k years ago the coasts were massively different and look what happened to Pompeii just a couple thousand years ago.
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      Editing … "Last time when nordafrica was cut by a sea like that dinosaurs were walking on earth!" You didn't watch thd full video. They have evidence to say it was not long ago.
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      Editing … Bullshit! Just watch this video uploader is a world wide known plate tectonic expert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKLhL-ZKSv8&
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      Editing … This video shows green sahara period after iceage until ancient egypt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAbkEIpSBUM& Then large lakes dry out salt always remains, lake chad was larger than caspian sea at some point.
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      Editing … It's not even 5am but I will watch those once I brew some coffee
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      Editing … But before I do that Imma just leave this here: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/nov/10/ancient-river-network-discoverd-buried-under-saharan-sand Notice where the Tamanrasett river went 5k years ago?
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      Editing … Alex, that second video seems to line up with Atlantis. It says there were thousands of rivers crossing the sahara starting 14k years ago and the wettest was 11k years ago.
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      Editing … My second choice for a location would be The Azores. But the problem there is the distance, it's in the middle of the Atlantic. Plus Atlantis was supposed to be a huge city with lots of technology and gold etc. You think an Island in the middle of the ocean had all the resources on it to do that? A lush green Africa would provide everything for a civilisation to flourish.
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      Editing … Seem to used that map about green sahara, severall over pretty different ones are around too. Green sahara was caused by a monsoon effect which will repeat as a part of the milankovic cycle in some millenia.
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      Editing … Atlantis likely was at black 'lake' (sea) before the damm at the Bosporus broke flooding a sweetwater lake with saltwater 80 to 100 m height totalassumed to happen in some days. It is close to the near east so news spread quickly.
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      Editing … German 'atlantis' is called Rungholt a city with an medium four digit population lost in one day due a flood in 1362. Exact location is still disputed...
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      Editing … I just thought of something else too. Atlantis had elephants! Where are elephants found? Africa. Not on The Azores. Not in America.
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      Editing … It could just be that they got the ivory from trade. Or that they traded the elephants.
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      Editing … You think they could put 6 ton elephants on a sea going ship with enough food to feed them 12k years ago?
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      Editing … Baby elephants exist. Also they could have just hunted them on land and taken their teeth.
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