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    I've been meaning to post this for awhile but always forget. Now i don't know if other countries have laws similar to the fifth amendment but for all Americans here if you're in a situation where you are accused of a crime (even if you're guilty) NEVER EVER TALK TO THE POLICE!!! You invoke your fifth amendment right and your right to remain silent until you have spoken with a lawyer!!!

    I know this video is long but please watch it. A self defense attorney and even a former cop will tell why you should'nt
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
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      Editing … I've always strongly pushed this, you never talk without immunity, no matter what! Even if you're just saying "wait I don't think I was speeding," save it for when you contest the ticket. Absolutely never talk without immunity. Your lawyer should say the same. What you say can only be held against you.
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      Editing … Well I mean, they straight up tell you this in the Miranda rights. It's common knowledge surely.
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      Editing … But you're only read those rights when you're being arrested, whereas the policy of not speaking to police should apply regardless of whether or not you're presumed guilty of any crime. They want to ask you questions about a friend in trouble? Only do it with immunity. They haven't told you that what you say can and will be held against you, but it still applies. When you've been pulled over by a cop, they'll write down everything you say. If you later contest the ticket, what's been written down will be used against you. Plus, lots of people don't really wrap their mind around how literal "anything you say can and will be held against you" is.
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      Editing … Cops are also just good at getting people talking. After "anything you say can and will be held against you" it's not too hard to convince someone that there's a right answer to be given. There's also plenty of threats, promises that they'll go easier if you give them a little something so they'll be allowed to leave you alone. No talky though.
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      Editing … They are police though. Their entire existence is to enforce laws. Their allegiance is to the letter of the law. If people can't wrap their heads round that then quite frankly they are responsible for their own misfortune.
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      Editing … I don't understand this outlook, I don't think we can fairly expect everyone else to be as literate in this topic as we are
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      Editing … Yea, I will admit I am a very literal person. But to expect police officers to abandon their job role seems silly. Obviously they are taking note of everything you say to compile a report. That is their job.
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      Editing … This isn't even a matter of doing their job, it's a matter of cops looking to make as many bad guys as they can. People who assume cops are doing a good job are probably more likely to talk, they think, hey, I only knew the guy, it's not like I did anything wrong! Wrong. Wrong is exactly what they'll make sure you did.
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      Editing … We have it in the UK, I think it originates in English common law. I've waived it before though. Clear cut case of mistaken identity and I wanted to give my alibi/tell them who I was. The police apologised for jumping/cuffing me and gave me a ride home.
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      Editing … See, our cops would've said "we don't need him" and shot you
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      Editing … I always talk to them, I deny everything straight away.
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      Editing … Even if you tell the truth 100% the prosecution could still find a way to take what you said and later convict you, especially through witnesses who think they saw you but didn't. Don't talk! You and your lawyer can see what evidence the prosecution has and go from there on a later date.
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      Editing … But there can't be evidence if you didn't do it.
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      Editing … Yes there can be. Innocent people are jailed all the time. Sometimes there's not enough evidence to tell the whole story, sometimes parts of the evidence are false, but it's still evidence in police hands.
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      Editing … Well, I've never been convicted. Spent a couple of nights in cells but that's it.
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      Editing … You also have different cops, idk how different your laws are, I mean, the cell was probably just for waiting until you had a license to be outside
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      Editing … Just because you've never been convicted doesn't mean that can't do it to you in the future especially with people in the UK getting arrested for "hate speech" aka you've hurt someones feelings.
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      Editing … Nah, innocent until proven guilty. If I've not done anything I'll be the first to tell them so.
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      Editing … Besides, I have tracking on my phone, anybody can see where I've been if I let them.
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