• 6 years ago
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    Wait, #Frank Oz is still alive? Well that's cool. I guess I just figured the reason he doesn't do the voices in the more recent Muppet movies and his other popular characters was because he was no longer with us. Power on, brother! You're still a very manly muppet.
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    Just got back from seeing it, and to sum up my thoughts: I really go back and forth on whether or not I like it, just like the movie itself constantly goes back and forth between whether it wants to be incredibly grim dark, epic, or some kind of romantic comedy. Seriously, I understand the need to build up conflict, just to lead to some kind of conclusion, but this movie took things to such extremes with its tonal inconsistency, it often felt like I was switching from one movie to another over and over again. In the end, for a movie that felt like it wanted to shake things up, it actually kind of felt predictable and kinda played things safe, imo. I didn't hate it, like some, but didn't love it either. I definitely need to rewatch it to sort out my thoughts, but for now it's one of most chaotically inconsistent films I've ever seen.
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    Elaborating on my last comment--

    "Let's completely contradict Poe Dameron's entire established characterization and toss out almost everything people liked from Episode VII! Let's inject an entire plotline with gross Reylo undertones and a pointless Rose/Finn romance with zero chemistry! Also, people like countless, disjointed, choppy side stories rather than one seamless and well-paced storyline, right?" I mean, I didn't exactly hate it, but compared to how much I loved Episode VII... *headdesk*
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    This shit was so disappointing.
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    My interest in spending additional money and time on star wars expanded universe content sank to an all time low after the release of episode 8. Nothing matters anymore; everything became a joke. Why should I care anymore?
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      Editing … Star Wars used to be the pinnacle of what a franchise could be, it was what other escapist fiction reached to become. When people say "cinematic universe," we interpret more than just "series" or "franchise," right? Examples of "cinematic universes" release a film every year, then start with two a year, now our biggest CUs are at three a year. The quality can be hit or miss. ... That gives me a thought, but I won't go off topic yet. Star Wars has basically become one of these cinematic universes, right? We're on annual entries right now, but we'll be entering two a year soon enough, probably 2020 or 2021, I'd be surprised if it were any later or earlier. The excitement for each new entry's waning now--we aren't waiting two-three years for a massive entry in a trilogy anymore, we're waiting two years for new entries in the miniseries that takes place in the overall franchise for which we have to wait even less for even more entries. Star Wars has been devalued, and with this, the idea of putting care into each entry will become devalued too.
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      Editing … On that idea of hit or miss cinematic universe entries: am I wrong, or are the the best ones usually the ones that are most separated from the universe? Like Guardians of the Galaxy, Doctor Strange, Logan, Deadpool, Wonder Woman (ya know, set... almost a hundred years in the past). Entries that mostly don't feel as if they're building up to the next crossover, and are fine just telling their own story. There are exceptions though, both in the sense of quality entries that were very much tied in (First Class babyy), and also in disconnected titles that still couldn't escape the shit (Suicide Squad).
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      Editing … oh but First Class was before the whole "let's follow this cinematic universe idea" wasn't it
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      Editing … Go back and read the old comics and books, you know the ones the fandom have decided are canon again. There is a lot of good stuff back there!
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      Editing … When the EU was decanonized, the greatest loss for me was everything with the word "Tales" :(. Tales from Jabba's Palace, Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina, "Star Wars Tales" (which had a four-chapter story about one of Star Wars' all-time best characters, #Darca Nyl). Those were q u a l i t y and they cared about being a part of that galaxy far, far away.
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    A musical analysis of how shit The Last Jedi and the sequel trilogy are, and what a winner John Williams is, or "The Last Jedi is shit, and I can prove it with music." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FstNC8T4LjA
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  • benace75 wrote his opinion about Star Wars: Episode VIII
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    I feel like Disney's new Star Wars movies have been as flimsy and unstable as Kylo Ren. 5/10
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    This is the Game of Thrones season 6 of Star Wars
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      Editing … What does that mean?
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      Editing … The first five seasons of Game of Thrones blew up because they subverted the fantasy genre. This caused a lot of other media to mimic Game of Thrones, by trying their hardest to be unpredictable and different, to try to shock people. When George RR Martin left the production crew of the TV show in order to write the books, and the showrunners were only given the major plot points and had to fill in the rest themselves, they proved unable to naturally subvert the fantasy genre, and went with a formulaic shock approach. Formulaic subversion. See, that just doesn't work--subversion only works when it's not formulaic. It doesn't take long while watching to recognize, oh, I see exactly where you're going, I know all your tricks, and now when every scene comes I know exactly how it's going to conclude, because I know exactly what all of these moves mean.
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      Editing … Oh and I forgot to finish off that string about other media mimicking Game of Thrones: those mimics didn't understand what made Game of Thrones special, and went with formulaic approaches of shock and trying to be different. Game of Thrones season 6, as well as The Last Jedi, are just like those mimics, with their own shock-driven formulas. Game of Thrones of course didn't come up with the idea of subverting a genre, but it sparked so many others to try the same, with the same gritty atmosphere. Game of Thrones season 7 gave up on subversion and shock altogether, now it's just any other high fantasy.
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      Editing … "formulaic shock approach. Formulaic subversion. See, that just doesn't work--subversion only works when it's not formulaic. It doesn't take long while watching to recognize, oh, I see exactly where you're going, I know all your tricks, and now when every scene comes I know exactly how it's going to conclude, because I know exactly what all of these moves mean." I had this problem with season 4 of GoT. I was like "You can't top the green explosion and red wedding, I've seen that shit". Also, didn't GoT start in like 2010? There was plenty of dark shit by the time GoT came out. What felt different about it to me was its sense of scale, hopping around from place to place in its big epic world on a TV budget, that's the part that felt subversive, if it could be called that.
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      Editing … It's not a matter of dark shit, it's a matter of dark shit that's trying its hardest to shock you with unexpected death and betrayal regarding major character.
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    Basically me, several times during this movie:
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