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    I've been replaying a lot of my old favorites lately.... I think my lists are gonna shake up a lot. Metal Gear Solid my longstanding #1 might even fall off the list completely. I didn't hate it or anything. I understand why I loved it and it's influence on the industry but I don't think I'd say it's a favorite of mine anymore. It's got pretty janky controls and a bloated story. And honestly plays very much like a boss rush, every five seconds your jumping to the next boss battle. I just played the first two Metal Gear games as well and enjoyed my time with those much more. They have pretty much everything solid has without the story bloat.
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      Editing … Finally, somebody that is willing to see MGS for what it is today. I wish all fanboys would be as open minded.
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      Editing … MGS isn't MGS without a bloated story, as evidenced by MGSV. Since you liked OG Metal Gear have you played UnMetal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ppYv7SPT_4 I've considered checking it out but some aspects of it put me off. And I've always wanted to check out the Game Boy Color MGS.
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      Editing … MGS1 is certainly janky and kind of hard to look at, but in a way that few stealth games in the subsequent decades have been, it makes ghosting the ideal way to progress. No tranq gun, no first-person precision shooting, and most importantly, the second you're spotted the alarm goes off. None of the nonsense with the guard scooting around the corner to radio for help. You get spotted, you'd best GTFO pronto. It can be frustrating how easily you clip through a guard while trying to break his neck, but I must say it brought a whole lot of tension to the experience that I've rarely experienced in more recent stealth games. On higher difficulties there's even a proto-Dark Souls appeal. I would sometimes try to back-track to stock up on rations for a boss fight only to lose more health along the way. Not my favorite game, or even my favorite in the series, but I wish these aspects of game design hadn't been all but abandoned.
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      Editing … I've been doing a series run through so I played Metal Gear (MSX) - Metal Gear (NES) - about half of Snake's Revenge (NES) - Metal Gear 2 (MSX) - Metal Gear Solid (PS1) - some of VR Missions - Metal Gear Solid (GBC) - then I actually did play Unmetal - and now I'm the majority of the way through Metal Gear Solid 2
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      Editing … In terms of bloat, what I'm trying to say is that the story was expanded in the wrong places. A lot of boring back story to some of the bosses. And possibly because I remember the map so well from childhood. It felt like I was just jumping from boss battle to boss battle. Barely even playing a game. The visuals didn't bother me, they're pretty great graphics for a PS1 game. But the controls did kind of bother me. Because I didn't feel as though I had a good grasp on my movement or combat. Like I'm ok with jank if it's consistent. Last year I played through all the Syphon Filters and recently I did Resident Evil Director's Cut and was fine with those because even though their control schemes are a bit rough. I was able to get a consistent result.
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      Editing … But yea I'm not saying "MGS is the worst game ever" I still love it and got a lot of nostalgia and respect for it. But there's a lot of games out there that have pulled these concepts it created and made better games.
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      Editing … UnMetal was good but a bit too linear and jokey for my tastes. If anything I'd say I was disappointed that all the tools were there to make a great Metal Gear like game but then he made a parody game instead. It's a bummer though that the guy before he made UnMetal he made a MSX homebrew game called Prisoner of War which is essentially UnMetal without all the jokiness. I want to play that but as far as I can tell you need to buy the MSX cart and og hardware to play it. The market just does not have any Metal Gear like games from my searching other than UnMetal.
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      Editing … Metal Gear Solid (GBC)... while impressive for the hardware. I really wanted it to end. It was so long and god there's a lot of unnecessary text. And coming off playing original Metal Gears, the level design leaves a lot to be desired. You never get that same rewarding feeling you get for exploring in the originals.
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