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    Despite being the longest thing we will ever do, life is painfully short! :/
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    • Nodley
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      Editing … Wait until you're my age, I'm half dead and I aint even grown up yet.
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    • Dr Eggnog
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      Editing … I'll never feel this way. These 22 years have been IMMENSE! They say life speeds up when you get old, but I don't know if it could ever speed up enough for me to say my life has felt show.
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    • Silent Gamer
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      Editing … 22 years? Oh god, I've reached the age where you seem young :O
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    • Aramonde
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      Editing … Im glad i checked to see what Nod's name was before i @ him in a thread he already posted in lol. Man i wish i was 22 again.
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    • Husky Wing
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      Editing … I'd rather die young than grow old. This pretty face can't get wrinkled.
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    • Husky Wing
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      Editing … But I'm also afraid of dying!
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    • MrZAP
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      Editing … I prefer to grow old without the negatives. Best of both worlds! But obviously in the end quantity trumps anything else. Once you're dead you can't do anything else, good or bad, and that's a deal-breaker if you ask me. Living as long as can possibly be managed is the obvious choice.
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    • Husky Wing
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      Editing … "Death is so terribly final, while life is full of possibilities." - Tyrion Lannister
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    • MrZAP
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      Editing … I still need to read/watch that at some point... but yes, of course he/she has the right idea.
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    • LizardTaro
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      Editing … Wait until you're my age, I'm 23 and I feel like I'm already half dead!
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      Editing … Oh wait, you are older than me
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    • MrZAP
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      Editing … And I still don't think you or I can legitimately call ourselves old in any sense.
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    • Husky Wing
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      Editing … He could be an ant. Ants don't usually live to be even 20.
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    • MrZAP
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      Editing … He seems far too independent to be an ant. Maybe a gnat.
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    • Nodley
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      Editing … Get off my lawn!
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    • Dr Eggnog
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      Editing … I don't think I want to get really old. I'll kill myself when I'm around 60 or so.
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    • MrZAP
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      Editing … Yes, but you're in your early 20s now. Technology will have advanced significantly by then. There's a good chance you'll be able to live a much healthier and more productive and active life at 60 or 70 than you could today.
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    • Nodley
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      Editing … There is a definite physical decline starting around 35. I can't run fast/sprint anymore I'm just like a diesel engine chugging away, and I tire a lot easier during day to day stuff. I'm also a lot slower sparring than what I used to be, I know what I want to do but it just doesn't happen quick enough. Strengthwise I seem fine, I can still deadlift/squat more than almost anybody I know. I think if I keep fit I'll be good until my 70s no problem. If I end up in the physical state my grandad is in I'll top myself, he relies on carers and has no life.
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    • MrZAP
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      Editing … I understand that mentality to some degree, but from my point of view the idea of life becoming worse than death itself is inherently flawed, because I see death as inherently worse in all circumstances precisely because of 1. that stopping of future possibilities, good and bad, and 2. the loss of identity, which is in my personal case a huge source of existential anxiety. Yeah, I want to stay in good health and be able to be active, and aging is an unpleasant prospect looming on the horizon, but I would still feel that living in a diminished state, even a significantly diminished state, even a painful state or one of suffering, would still be better than death itself. This is strengthened by my belief that tech will get better and I will be able to do more for longer periods in the future, and so the problem will be be eaten away and made less significant over time anyway.
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    • Dr Eggnog
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      Editing … I don't remember where I heard this once, but someone once said you can't compare life to death because you can't compare something to nothing, and I thought that was smart. Personally, I don't believe in the "life is a gift" line of thinking. I didn't ask to be born and the half of my life that sucked was more bad than the half of my life that I've liked has been good. Now that my life is good, I'm gonna ride it for a long time, but when my body gets used up, I don't just wanna lie around having people take care of me. There's nothing I really want to do before I die. I just want to keep being happy for a while.
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      Editing … "I would still feel that living in a diminished state, even a significantly diminished state, even a painful state or one of suffering, would still be better than death itself." To a certain point I agree, a bit of pain or something is worth seeing your grandkids faces at Christmas. But there comes a point with some people where it just isn't worth it anymore. I've already accepted it, I've thought about it a lot these last few years. After my nana had dementia for years and didn't know who any of us were, I decided that if I was in a bad enough position that I wasn't happy, and I still had my wits about me, I'd stop it. I still have so much to look forward to but if I was diagnosed with terminal cancer tomorrow it'd be OK because I'm not worried about dying. I don't wanna die in pain and suffering and causing my loved ones worry, that bothers me more than an outright death.
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    • MrZAP
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      Editing … See, I think the exact opposite. My death is all about me. I don't care how others think of me or if they worry or not or miss me or how they remember me. That's their problem. My only problem is that I'd no longer exist, which won't be a problem after the fact (since I'll be beyond caring) but is something I very much want to avoid while it isn't the case. And I don't think so much about wanting to see grandkids but more about wanting to go into space and explore and wanting to meet tons of people and learn tons of things. I don't really have a solid bucket list, but I do have a limitless one, so I'm of the opinion that no finite amount of time is enough. I want to experience everything that life has to offer, which to me is synonymous with everything the universe (multiverse?) has to offer, and also means avoiding death for as long as possible, or ideally for good if possible. It's not so much that I see life as a gift, or even that I'm happy with my particular life in the moment, but being alive is something I like as a concept now that I understand it, and I want to exploit it for all it's worth. And even then it's not only a love of life. It's also the darker aspect, the fear and, yes, hatred, of death. It takes away this wonderful thing. It's not so much the loss of efficacy that I dislike, though that's significant, but more the loss of identity itself. I can't stand the idea of "me" ending. That is probably what I dwell on more than anything else and what I try to avoid more than anything else. So yes, even a life of extreme hardship and pain would still be preferable to an ending of my consciousness. And I'm still of the opinion that technology will help in the long run. Cybernetics, gene therapy, even the cloning of organs and more all will make a life of vitality and activity possible for the old and older as time goes by, and increasingly so, and I'm of the right age to take full advantage of that new technology as it develops (as are, likely, most everyone in this thread, including the older ones).
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    • Silent Gamer
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      Editing … ^ I hear ya buddy. I have my ideal immortality nailed down :P http://www.favslist.com/status/989640.
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    • Dr Eggnog
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      Editing … Mr. ZAP is reminding me a lot of Mr. Enter in his DeviantArt blogs right now. He's very much a "do as many things as possible" kind of guy, though that's partly just how his Aspergers syndrome works.
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      Editing … Don't know who that is, but that's not far off the mark. It's less "do as many things as possible" and more "there are too many possibilities to warrant wanting to stop" and "death is really, really, really bad. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid."
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    • Nodley
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      Editing … I'm lucky, I've travelled a lot and done pretty much everything I wanted in life. I don't have a real bucket list anymore, just a few more places to travel to and sights to see. It's a little scary that all those lessons I've learned the hard way will just be gone, along with all my memories, all that experience. It's such a waste! But if I'm dead I wont care, so whatever. I'd like people to remember me as a nice guy who did the right things, and that's why a few years ago I started raising myself above all my friends and the average person in this shitty area I live. I'm still not a saint, I have a temper and wont let anybody harm me in any way, but I try to live as well as I can. I'm the honest, caring, unselfish guy, if I can help someone I will. But only if they are in genuine need, I have zero time for lazy freeloaders. I'm hard but fair I feel. I can die happy with who I am, I could be better, and I will given time, but it's all good if I went now.
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